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2001

HEARING ON H.R. 146, H.R. 182, AND H.R. 601

LEGISLATIVE HEARING

before the

SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS, RECREATION, AND PUBLIC LANDS

of the

COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

March 13, 2001

Serial No. 107-4

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COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES

JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah, Chairman
NICK J. RAHALL II, West Virginia, Ranking Democrat Member

Don Young, Alaska,
  Vice Chairman
W.J. ''Billy'' Tauzin, Louisiana
Jim Saxton, New Jersey
Elton Gallegly, California
John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee
Joel Hefley, Colorado
Wayne T. Gilchrest, Maryland
Ken Calvert, California
Scott McInnis, Colorado
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Richard W. Pombo, California
Barbara Cubin, Wyoming
George Radanovich, California
Walter B. Jones, Jr., North Carolina
Mac Thornberry, Texas
Chris Cannon, Utah
John E. Peterson, Pennsylvania
Bob Schaffer, Colorado
Jim Gibbons, Nevada
Mark E. Souder, Indiana
Greg Walden, Oregon
Michael K. Simpson, Idaho
Thomas G. Tancredo, Colorado
C.L. ''Butch'' Otter, Idaho
Tom Osborne, Nebraska
Jeff Flake, Arizona
Dennis R. Rehberg, Montana
VACANCY

George Miller, California
Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts
Dale E. Kildee, Michigan
Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon
Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, American Samoa
Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii
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Solomon P. Ortiz, Texas
Frank Pallone, Jr., New Jersey
Calvin M. Dooley, California
Robert A. Underwood, Guam
Adam Smith, Washington
Donna M. Christensen, Virgin Islands
Ron Kind, Wisconsin
Jay Inslee, Washington
Grace F. Napolitano, California
Tom Udall, New Mexico
Mark Udall, Colorado
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey
James P. McGovern, Massachusetts
Anibal Acevedo-Vila, Puerto Rico
Hilda L. Solis, California
Brad Carson, Oklahoma
Betty McCollum, Minnesota

Allen D. Freemyer, Chief of Staff
Lisa Pittman, Chief Counsel
Michael S. Twinchek, Chief Clerk
James H. Zoia, Democrat Staff Director
Jeff Petrich, Democrat Chief Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS, RECREATION, AND PUBLIC LANDS
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JOEL HEFLEY, Colorado, Chairman
DONNA M. CHRISTENSEN, Virgin Islands Ranking Democrat Member

Elton Gallegly, California
John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee
Wayne T. Gilchrest, Maryland
George Radanovich, California
Walter B. Jones, Jr., North Carolina,
  Vice Chairman
Mac Thornberry, Texas
Chris Cannon, Utah
Bob Schaffer, Colorado
Jim Gibbons, Nevada
Mark E. Souder, Indiana
Michael K. Simpson, Idaho
Thomas G. Tancredo, Colorado

Dale E. Kildee, Michigan
Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, American Samoa
Frank Pallone, Jr., New Jersey
Tom Udall, New Mexico
Mark Udall, Colorado
Rush D. Holt, New Jersey
James P. McGovern, Massachusetts
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Anibal Acevedo-Vila, Puerto Rico
Hilda L. Solis, California
Betty McCollum, Minnesota

C O N T E N T S

    Hearing held on March 13, 2001

Statement of Members:

Christensen, Hon. Donna, a Delegate to Congress from the Virgin Islands, Prepared statement on H.R. 146, H.R. 182 and H.R. 601

Corzine, Hon. Jon S., a U.S. Senator from the State of New Jersey, Statement submitted for the record on H.R. 146

Hefley, Hon. Joel, a Representative in Congress from the State of Colorado
Prepared statement on H.R. 146, H.R. 182 and H.R. 601

Pallone, Hon. Frank, Jr. a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey, Prepared statement on H.R. 146

Pascrell, Hon. Bill, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey
Prepared statement on H.R. 146

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Simmons, Hon. Rob, a Representative in Congress from the State of Connecticut
Prepared statement on H.R. 182
Letters submitted for the record on H.R. 182

Simpson, Hon. Mike, a Representative in Congress from the State of Idaho
Prepared statement on H.R. 601
Letters submitted for the record on H.R. 601

Torricelli, Hon. Robert G., a U.S. Senator from the State of New Jersey, Statement submitted for the record on H.R. 146

Statement of Witnesses:

Clower, Don, Idaho Fish and Game Commission, Meridian, ID
Prepared statement on H.R. 601

DiIanni Pat, President, Vision 20/20, Hawthorne, NJ
Prepared statement on H.R.146

Doddridge, Joseph E., Acting Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, Department of the Interior, Washington, DC
Prepared statement on H.R. 146
Prepared statement on H.R. 182
Prepared statement on H.R. 601
Response to questions submitted for the record
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Dopirak Anna-Lisa, Director, Community Development for the City of Paterson, Paterson, NJ
Prepared statement on H.R. 146

Fisher, Jack W., Idaho Wildlife Federation, Nampa, ID
Prepared statement on H.R. 601

Frohling Nathan M., Program Director, The Nature Conservancy, Middletown, CT
Prepared statement on H.R. 182

Merrow, Susan, First Selectman, Town of East Haddam, Connecticut
Prepared statement on H.R. 182

Additional materials supplied:

DiFrancesco, Hon. Donald T., Acting Governor, State of New Jersey, Letter submitted for the record on H.R. 146

Fennell, Rosalyn J., and Chandler, William J., Letter on H.R. 601 submitted for the record by The Wilderness Society

Filippone, Dr. Ella F., Executive Administrator, Passaic River Coalition, Basking Ridge, NJ, Statement submitted for the record on H.R. 146

Goldsmith, Bhanu, Letter on H.R. 146 submitted for the record by The Honorable Bill Pascrell, Jr.
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Kubofcik, Hon. William, Resolution on H.R. 146 submitted for the record by The Honorable Bill Pascrell, Jr.

Mallik, Arjun, Letter on H.R. 146 submitted for the record by The Honorable Bill Pascrell, Jr.

Passaic County Board of Chosen Freeholders Resolution on H.R. 146 submitted for the record by The Honorable Bill Pascrell, Jr.

Pou, Assemblywoman Nellie, Letter on H.R. 146 submitted for the record

Smyk, Edward A., Passaic County Historian, Paterson, NJ, Letter submitted for the record on H.R. 146

Sunday, Nick, Director, The Alexander Hamilton National Memorial, New York, NY, Letter submitted for the record on H.R. 146

Text of H.R. 146
Text of H.R. 182
Text of H.R. 601

HEARING ON H.R. 146, TO AUTHORIZE THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR TO STUDY THE SUITABILITY AND FEASIBILITY OF DESIGNATING THE GREAT FALLS HISTORIC DISTRICT IN PATERSON, NEW JERSEY, AS A UNIT OF THE NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES; H.R. 182, TO AMEND THE WILD AND
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SCENIC RIVERS ACT TO DESIGNATE A SEGMENT OF THE EIGHTMILE RIVER IN
THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT FOR STUDY FOR POTENTIAL ADDITION TO THE
NATIONAL WILD AND SCENIC RIVERS SYSTEM, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES; AND
H.R. 601, TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED ACCESS OF HUNTERS TO THOSE FEDERAL
LANDS INCLUDED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CRATERS OF THE MOON
NATIONAL MONUMENT IN THE STATE OF IDAHO PURSUANT TO PRESIDENTIAL
PROCLAMATION 7373 OF NOVEMBER 9, 2000, AND TO CONTINUE THE
APPLICABILITY OF THE TAYLOR GRAZING ACT TO THE DISPOSITION OF GRAZING
FEES ARISING FROM THE USE OF SUCH LANDS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

Tuesday, March 13, 2001
House of Representatives
Subcommittee on National Parks, Recreation, and Public Lands
Committee on Resources
Washington, DC

    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 2 p.m., in Room 1324 Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Joel Hefley [Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding.

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE JOEL HEFLEY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN
CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF COLORADO

    The
committee will come to order. Good afternoon and welcome to the hearing today. This
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afternoon, the Subcommittee on National Parks, Recreation, and Public Lands will hear
testimony on three bills, H.R. 146, H.R. 182 and H.R. 601.     H.R. 146
was introduced by Congressman Bill Pascrell of New Jersey. This bill would authorize the
Secretary of the Interior to study the suitability and feasibility of designating the Great Falls
Historic District in Paterson, New Jersey, as a unit of the National Park System.

    H.R. 182 was introduced by Congressman Rob Simmons of Connecticut. This bill would amend the
Wild and Scenic Rivers Act to designate a segment of Eightmile River in the State of
Connecticut for study for potential addition to the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System.

    Lastly, H.R. 601 was introduced by Congressman Mike Simpson of Idaho. This bill would ensure that
hunters enjoy continued access to Federal lands included within the expanded boundaries of the
Craters of the Moon National Monument in the State of Idaho. Last November, the Clinton
Administration expanded the monument through a Presidential proclamation from 54,000 acres to
add an additional 661,000 acres. The effect of the Administration's action was to close
approximately 410,000 acres to hunting.     This bill would reopen the
closed areas to hunting. The bill would also provide that the Taylor Grazing Act would control
the manner in which grazing fees arising from the use of the land within the expanded boundaries
of the monument are distributed.

    [The texts of H.R. 146, H.R. 182, and H.R. 601 follow:]

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    Mr. HEFLEY. I would
like to thank all of our witnesses for being here today to testify on these bills, and since I have no
ranking member, we are going to go directly to the first panel.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Hefley follows:]

Statement of The Honorable Joel Hefley, Chairman, Subcommittee on National Parks, Recreation and Public Lands, on H.R. 146, H.R. 182 and H.R. 601

    Good afternoon and welcome to the hearing today. This afternoon, the Subcommittee on National Parks, Recreation and Public Lands will hear testimony on three bills H.R. 146, H.R. 182 and H.R. 601.

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    H.R. 146 was introduced by Congressman Bill Pascrell of New Jersey. This bill would authorize the Secretary of the Interior to study the suitability and feasibility of designating the
Great Falls Historic District in Paterson, New Jersey, as a unit of the National Park System.

    H.R. 182 was introduced by Congressman Rob Simmons of Connecticut. This bill would amend the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act to designate a segment of the Eightmile River in the State
of Connecticut for study for potential addition to the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System.

    Last, H.R. 601 was introduced by Congressman Mike Simpson of Idaho. This bill would ensure that hunters enjoy continued access to Federal lands included within the expanded
boundaries of the Craters of the Moon National Monument in the State of Idaho. Last November,
the Clinton Administration expanded the monument through a Presidential Proclamation from
54,000 acres to add an additional 661,000 acres. The effect of the Administration's action was to
close approximately 410,000 acres to hunting. This bill would reopen the closed areas to hunting.
The bill would also provide that the Taylor Grazing Act would control the manner in which
grazing fees arising from the use of the land within the expanded boundaries of the monument
are distributed.

    I'd like to thank all of our witnesses for being here today to testify on these bills and now
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turn the time remaining over to the Ranking Member, Ms. Christensen.

   

    [The prepared statements of Senator Corzine and Senator
Torricelli follow:]

Statement of The Honorable Jon S. Corzine, U.S. Senator, State of New Jersey on H.R. 146

    Mr. Chairman, thank you for this opportunity to submit written testimony in support of this
bill, which authorizes the National Park Service to assess the potential for incorporating the
Great Falls Historic District in Paterson, New Jersey, as a unit of our National Park System. I am
a co-sponsor of the Act with Senator Robert Torricelli in the Senate and Congressman Bill
Pascrell in the House. Please enter this testimony into the record.

    In 1976, when Congress designated the Great Falls area as a National Historic District, it
recognized Paterson's singular history as the cradle of American industry and invention. Planned
by Alexander Hamilton, Paterson has played a unique role in the story of working people in this
country. American industry and American labor are rooted here. This is the home of
technological and social innovation in the United States, and this legislation will determine the
best way to create living history out of this special resource.
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    The study we are requesting is a logical extension of the commitment Congress has already
made to restoring the Great Falls and making it accessible to all our citizens. It builds on the
1976 designation and the Federal Urban History Initiative (UHI) that my predecessor, Senator
Frank Lautenberg, authored in 1991.

    The City of Paterson and the National Park Service have a long history of working together
to implement the kind of restoration, envisioned in those earlier initiatives, that will let history
live on in our generation and the generations to follow. I am confident your Committee will
concur that authorization of the Great Falls Historic District Study Act of 2001 is essential to
enhancing the heritage that built our country and sustains it to this day.

    Again, Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to submit this written testimony.

   

Statement of The Honorable Robert G. Torricelli, U.S. Senator, State of New Jersey, on H.R. 146

    Thank you Chairman Hansen, Ranking Member Rahall, and members of the Resources
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Committee (Committee) for the opportunity to testify before the Committee on H.R. 146,
legislation introduced by Congressman Bill Pascrell to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to
study the suitability and feasibility of designating the Great Falls Historic District in Paterson,
New Jersey, as a unit of the National Park System (NPS).

    I have introduced similar legislation in the Senate, with my colleague from New Jersey, Mr.
Corzine, and am seeking hearings on my bill, S. 386. These important bills recognize the
historical significance of the Great Falls area in Paterson, New Jersey, and I am hopeful that our
colleagues in both chambers join us in support of this effort.

    Paterson is known as America's first industrialized city. Alexander Hamilton founded
Paterson in 1792 as a mercantile private-public partnership, using the powerful falls to power
industry. He built a laboratory, and established the Society for the Establishment of Useful
Manufactures which actively promoted the textiles industry. Textiles were a large part of the
development of industry in Paterson, once known as the Silk City, and regarded as the center of
the textile industry for many years.

    New and developing industries located to Paterson and contributed to the growth of the city.
New immigrants, arriving at nearby Ellis Island, settled in Paterson, and provided the workforce
necessary for this newly industrialized city to thrive.
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    Rich in history, the Paterson Great Falls is also endowed with natural beauty. The Great
Falls is an island of beauty in a sea of urban development. The Great Falls is the second largest
waterfall on the East Coast, and attracts visitors from within and outside of New Jersey.

    Paterson Great Falls is also an educational tool for New Jersey's children. Students young
and old travel to Paterson Great Falls to witness its natural splendor, to learn about the industrial
revolution, and the pioneers who helped build our nation.

    This area is truly a valuable asset to the State of New Jersey, and I feel it is only proper to
share this wonderful resource with the entire nation by establishing the Paterson Great Falls as a
unit of the National Park System (NPS).

    The Federal Government has already acknowledged the significance of Great Falls, by
designating the area a national historic landmark. Establishing it as a unit of the NPS would
increase the presence of Great Falls, and the NPS would provide staff and tours, and allow for a
better, more educational interpretation of the site.

    This designation is warranted. Our nation's urban history is currently under-represented by
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the NPS. Not many sites tell the story of the growth of our nation and its economy from that of
agrarian to industrial. Other than Lowell, Massachusetts, a one-time industrial powerhouse
whose historic district was designated a national park, I am not aware of another NPS site which
represents our nation's early rich urban history.

    Congressman Pascrell's legislation would take the first step toward this important
designation by directing the NPS to study the feasibility of establishing a national park at the
Paterson Great Falls area. I wholly endorse this initiative, and look forward to the consideration
of H.R. 146 in the Senate. This legislation is necessary so that a critical chapter in the story of our
nation may be told to future generations.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. The first
panel is made up of The Honorable Rob Simmons, Second District of Connecticut, and The Honorable Bill Pascrell, Jr., the Eighth District of New Jersey. Have you all flipped a coin or
decided who would like to go first?     Mr.
PASCRELL. I will lead off, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Bill, you
take it from there.

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE BILL PASCRELL, JR., A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY
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    Mr. PASCRELL. Well,
thank you, Mr. Chairman, for allowing us the opportunity to testify here today. H.R. 146 calls
for a study of the Great Falls National Historic District, in my district and in my hometown of
Paterson, New Jersey, to determine the feasibility of adding Paterson, the historic district, to the
National Park System. There is no dispute that the Great Falls Historic District possesses an
historic significance that makes it an area to be preserved and treasured. The history is rich.
    Alexander Hamilton realized the incredible beauty and potential of the
Great Falls when he founded Paterson in 1792. As America's first planned industrial city, it is
our duty to ensure its preservation for generations to come. As we revisit Alexander Hamilton,
Mr. Chairman, we see a very different Hamilton than we learned perhaps in our schools. The
greatness of this man is yet not discovered.     Already tourists pour into
this area to see the 77-foot Great Falls of the Passaic River and to partake in the preserved
history; 20,000 yearly visitors have attended the Paterson Museum, which is in the district. The
falls and the surrounding neighborhood really represent the genesis of the American economic
miracle. Increasing the presence of the National Park Service will give the area the attention and
resources it really deserves.     As a key to our manufacturing roots, these
mills that sit today at the Great Falls constructed paper and cotton, and manufactured the first
revolver at Sam Colt's Works, the first locomotives at the Rogers Works, as well as airplane
engines and, of course, silk. Paterson was the Silk City. Paterson is known around the world for
being the producer of such silk. These buildings represent the various stages of the Industrial
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Revolution. They stand as monuments to progress. They are a mirror to hard-working American
families.     As a result of the employment opportunities that abound in Paterson because of these mills, Mr. Chairman, the city's population grew and diversified
rapidly. Between 1850 and the turn-of-the-century, Paterson's population increased from 11,000
to 105,000 people, growing by an average of 50 percent per decade. As a result, Paterson is
representative of the waves of immigration in the United States. The Irish and the English
immigrants, replaced later by the Italians and subsequently Spanish-speaking populations who
still reside here today, 57 ethnic groups. Chronicling the patterns and cultures of the immigrants
that came to Paterson from the 18th through the 20th centuries would provide us with a microcosm of
the effect of immigration in shaping this greatest of all lands.     The
historic labor unrest in Paterson focused on anti-child labor legislation, safety in the workplace,
the minimum wage and reasonable working hours. Some of the most important figures in early
20th-century labor history were involved in the Great Silk Strike of 1913, and while teaching
modern-day Americans about the history of the industry, the mills at Great Falls also set the
backdrop for the history of the labor movement. Today, they can teach both histories so tightly
intertwined.     Not only is the Great Falls Historic District historically
significant, but the city of Paterson stands ready to work in conjunction with the National Park
Service to develop its potential. I am confident that the city is up to this task. This is the first
legislative step I have taken on behalf of the Great Falls toward joining the National Park
Service, but it is not the first time I have worked with the city of Paterson to enhance and develop
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this valuable and important area.     I have long thought that the Passaic
River and the Great Falls are not only a critical part of our past history, they are the key to our
future, to the city's future, to the region's future. We must do all we can in a united fashion to
protect these most valuable assets. As the Mayor of Paterson, I went to Washington in 1993 to
testify before the House Subcommittee on Parks and Public Lands, to help convince Congress
that this area was worth protecting. I was proud to work with then-United States Senator Frank
Lautenberg to secure Federal funds to revitalize the Great Falls Historic District.
    Our work paid off, and the following year I stood with the Senator on
the steps of the Paterson Museum and accepted $4.1 million in Federal dollars, secured under the
Urban History Initiative, to restore and rebuild the Stoney Road Bridge over the upper raceway, as
well as hiking trails. This helps strengthen the relationship between the National Park Service
and the city of Paterson.

    The Great Falls District has been on the
National Register of Historic Places since 1970, has been a national landmark named by
President Ford, and I was so proud to be there at the time that he named, in 1976, this great, great
landmark. He defined it. He came to Paterson to do such. In 1988, the Interior Department
listed the district as a Priority One threatened National Historic Landmark. So the Park Service has
long been aware of our need to protect and save this area. Since the beginning of our
relationship, the city and the Park Service have worked together in a partnership that has helped
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the city begin to develop and revitalize the Great Falls Historic District.
    You will hear later on, Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee, from
Anna-Lisa Dopirak, the director of community development for the city of Paterson, who will
share with you many examples of the strong relationship between the city and the National Park
Service. In addition to a strong partnership with the city, I believe the key to the success of
creating a viable and healthy historic district is community involvement, and that is why we
created an Advisory Committee that meets regularly with the Park Service to choose the priorities
and shape the direction the Great Falls Historic District will move in. As Mayor, I attended many
of those meetings and was impressed by the community's interest and support on the issue.
    You will also hear from Pat DiIanni, the president of Vision 20/20, a
community organization that is providing grass-roots support for the revitalization of the entire
county of Passaic, including the Great Falls Historic District. He will share with you many
examples of how the community has evolved.     These falls really
represent our city, Mr. Chairman, its people and its potential. This place can be a real
destination, help us in creating jobs, grow businesses and bring people back from all over. You
cannot put a velvet rope around the district. We must make it a living, breathing attraction that
will celebrate our past, present and future.     In conclusion, I will steal
the words of the National Park Service in the Design Guidelines they created for the Great Falls
Historic District in 1999. ''The district bears eloquent testimony to astounding feats of
engineering and construction, to ingenious manufacturers and to the courage, creativity and
drudgery of untold lives spent within those mills. It is also about the human propensity to
harness the forces of nature, to put water and gravity and stone to work. The district retains the
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sense of having been one large factory, driven by one powerful engine, an image completely
consistent with Hamilton's vision of a centralized national manufactory.''
    Thank you again, Mr. Chairman, and I am honored to appear before
your Committee.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Pascrell follows:]

Statement of The Honorable Bill Pascrell, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey, on H.R. 146

    Thank you Mr. Chairman and the entire subcommittee for allowing me the opportunity to testify here today. My legislation, H.R. 146, calls for a study of the Great Falls National Historic
District in my hometown of Paterson, New Jersey, to determine the feasibility of adding it to the
National Park System.

    There is no dispute that the Great Falls Historic District possesses a historic significance
that makes it an area to be preserved and treasured. The history here is rich. Alexander Hamilton
realized the incredible beauty and potential of the Great Falls when he founded Paterson in 1792
as America's first planned industrial city and it is our duty to ensure its preservation for
generations to come.

    Already, tourists are pouring in every year to see the 77-foot Great Falls of the Passaic
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River and to partake in our preserved history. For the past 12 years, an average of 20,000 yearly
visitors have attended the Paterson Museum in the Historic District. And the Great Falls Visitors
Center reports almost 5,000 visitors to the center in the last year.

    The Falls and the surrounding neighborhood really represent the genesis of the American
economic miracle, and increasing the presence of the National Park Service here will give the
area the attention and resources it rightly deserves.

    As a key to our manufacturing roots, the mills that sit today at the Great Falls constructed
paper, cotton,. They manufactured the first revolver at Samuel Colt's Works, the first
locomotives at the Rogers Works, as well as airplane engines, and of course silk. Paterson is
known around the world as the Silk City. These buildings represent the various stages of the
industrial revolution in the United States. They stand as monuments to progress, and could
provide living museums for present day Americans to learn about this important part of our
history.

    As a result of the employment opportunities that abounded in Paterson because of the mills,
the city's population grew and diversified rapidly. Between 1850 and the turn of the century, the
population of Paterson increased from 11,000 to 105,000 growing by an average of 50 percent
per decade.

    As a result, Paterson is representative of the waves of immigration in the United States, as
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Irish and English immigrants were replaced later by Italians, and then subsequently
Spanish-speaking populations who still reside there today.

    Chronicling the patterns and cultures of the immigrants that came to Paterson from the 18th
through the 20th centuries would provide us with a microcosm of the effect of immigrants in the
shaping of the United States.

    This convergence between the burgeoning industrial workplace and the fledgling immigrant
communities resulted in conflicts that led to the modern day labor movement.

    The historic labor unrest in Paterson focused on anti-child labor legislation, safety in the
workplace, minimum wage, and reasonable working hours. Some of the most important figures
in early 20th Century American labor history were involved in the Great Silk Strike of 1913.

    While teaching modern day Americans about the history of industry, the mills at Great Falls
also set the backdrop for the history of the labor movement. Today they can teach both
histories—so tightly intertwined—together.

    Not only is the Great Falls Historic District historically significant, but the city of Paterson
stands ready to work in conjunction with the National Park Service to develop its potential. My
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goal is to create a synergistic partnership between the city of Paterson and the National Park
Service. I am confident that Paterson is up to the task.

    This bill is the first legislative step I have taken on behalf of Great Falls toward joining the
National Park Service. But it is not the first time I have worked with the city of Paterson to
enhance and develop this valuable and important area. I have long thought that the Passaic River
and the Great Falls are not only a critical part of our past history. They are the key to our future,
and we must do all we can in a united fashion to protect these most valuable assets.

    As Mayor of Paterson, I went to Washington in 1993 to testify before the House
Subcommittee on Parks and Public Lands to help convince Congress that this area was worth
protecting.

    I was proud to work closely with our former U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg to secure
Federal funds to revitalize the Great Falls Historic District. Our work paid off and the following
year, I stood with Senator Lautenberg on the steps of the Paterson Museum and accepted $4.1
million in Federal dollars secured under the Urban History Initiative to restore and rebuild the
Stoney Road Bridge over the Upper Raceway as well as hiking trails.

    This helped strengthen a relationship between the National Park Service and the city of
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Paterson that is ongoing today. But the city of Paterson has an even longer history of working
with the Federal Government to preserve its historic lands.

    The Great Falls district has been on the National Register of Historic Places since 1970 and
has been a National Historic Landmark since 1976. Since 1988, the Interior Department has
listed the district as a Priority One threatened National Historic Landmark. So the Park Service
has long been aware of our need to protect and save this area.

    Since the beginning of our relationship, the City and the Park Service have worked together
in a partnership that has helped the City begin to develop and revitalize the Great Falls Historic
District.

    You will hear later from Anna-Lisa Dopirak, the Director of Community Development for
the city of Paterson, who will share with you many examples of the strong relationship between
the City and the National Park Service.

    In addition to a strong partnership with the City, I believe that the key to the success of
creating a viable and healthy historic district is community involvement. That is why we created
an Advisory Committee that meets regularly with the Park Service to choose the priorities and
shape the direction the Great Falls Historic District will move in.
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    As Mayor of Paterson, I attended as many of those meetings as possible. I was impressed by
the community's interest and support in this issue.

    You will hear later from Pat DiIanni, the President of Vision 20/20, a community
organization that is providing grassroots support for the revitalization of Passaic County,
including the Great Falls Historic District. He will share with you other examples of community
support and efforts to develop and protect the area through community involvement.

    These Falls really represent our city, its people and all its potential. This place can be a real
destination that will create jobs, grow businesses and bring people in from all over. We cannot
put a velvet rope around the district we must make it a living, breathing attraction that will
celebrate our past, present and future.

    In conclusion, I will steal the words of the National Park Service in the Design Guidelines
they created for the Great Falls Historic District in 1999, ''The district bears eloquent testimony to
astounding feats of engineering and construction, to ingenious manufacturers, and to the courage,
creativity, and drudgery of untold lives spent within the mills. It is also about the human
propensity to harness the forces of nature, to put water and gravity and stone to work. The district
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retains the sense of having been one large factory driven by one powerful engine, an image
completely consistent with Hamilton's vision of a centralized national manufactory.''

    Thank you again for this opportunity.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you, Mr. Pascrell.     Mr. Simmons?

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE ROB SIMMONS, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT

    Mr. SIMMONS.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am pleased to be here this afternoon to testify in support of H.R. 
182, which is a bill to study the inclusion of Connecticut's Eightmile River as part of the National
Wild and Scenic Rivers System, and we have a map here in the chamber, Mr. Chairman, which
we can use to illustrate the location of this river. As you probably know, Connecticut has a
wealth of natural resources, and the Eightmile River, which is located in the area to the east of
the Connecticut River, which bisects the State, is the area that we are talking about. It is a
watershed from three of our towns down into a cove, which then flows into the river and then
into Long Island Sound.     This river has been identified as an exemplary
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source of resources. It is free-flowing. It has excellent water quality. It has a diversity of
aquatic water habitats and fish species, including native trout, and it is also a recreational
resource which figures into the communities which surround it. Unfortunately, because of the
trends of development in Connecticut in recent years, it is not likely to remain in its current
condition without some community effort and some effort on our part to preserve and protect it.
    That is why, on the very first day that I was sworn in as a freshman
member of this House of Representatives, I introduced a bill to study the Eightmile River for
wild and scenic status. I was pleased to be joined in that effort by all of my House colleagues on
both sides of the aisle, from Connecticut, and as well, I received commitments from Senators
Dodd and Lieberman on the Senate side to introduce companion bills in that body. For more
than 30 years, the National Wild and Scenic Rivers Act has protected some of our nation's most
precious rivers, and they are not all out west or in some of the vast reaches of our country. In
fact, in northwestern Connecticut, the Farmington River has achieved that status through
legislation introduced by Congresswoman Nancy Johnson. Connecticut can have a wild and
scenic river. It is possible.

    This Act makes sure that certain select
rivers of the Nation that have these outstanding assets will be preserved and protected, and that
they will be available to future generations. I think that the Eightmile River possesses all of
these qualities. I believe that the dollars we are requesting for a study will demonstrate that
beyond a reasonable doubt, and this is the process we follow in these cases. I am proud to
submit this legislation on behalf of my constituents in those three towns, and I would like to
request if we could, Mr. Chairman, that some correspondence between individuals and
organizations be introduced into the record. This is an initiative that has broad-based support in
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the community, and these letters demonstrate that commitment.     I am
also excited that one of our three first selectmen from this area is here with us today. That is Sue
Merrow of East Haddam. She has some testimony she would like to submit, and also Nathan
Frohling of The Connecticut Nature Conservancy is here to testify on behalf of this bill. I thank
you, Mr. Chairman, for your attention. I am happy to answer any questions that you have, and I
look forward to working with you and your Committee on this legislation as we move forward.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Simmons follows:]
    

Statement by The Honorable Rob Simmons, a Representative in Congress from the State of Connecticut, on H.R. 182

    Mr. Chairman and members of the Committee, I am pleased to be here
this afternoon to testify in support of H.R. 182, a bill to study the inclusion of Connecticut's
Eightmile River as part of the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System.

    Eastern Connecticut is fortunate to have a wealth of natural beauty, such as the Eightmile
River. The river, and the watershed it supports, is an outstanding ecological system. It has been
identified as an exemplary occurrence of one of Connecticut's most imperiled natural
communities. Its streams are free flowing, contain excellent water quality and a diversity of
aquatic habitats and fish species, including native and stocked trout. The Eightmile River is also
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an important recreational resource and figures prominently in the character of the communities in
which it flows.

    Unfortunately, the Eightmile River is not likely to remain in this outstanding condition
without a concerted community effort to protect it.

    That's why on my very first day in Congress, I introduced H.R. 182, a bill authorizing the
National Park Service to study and determine whether the Eightmile River is eligible for
designation as a National Wild and Scenic River. I was pleased to be joined in this effort by
every member of Connecticut's congressional delegation.

    For more than 30 years, the National Wild and Scenic Rivers Act has safeguarded some of
the nation's most precious rivers. The Act intends that certain select rivers of the Nation that
possess outstandingly remarkable scenic, recreational, geologic, fish and wildlife, historic,
cultural or other similar values, shall be preserved in free-flowing condition, and that they shall
be protected for the benefit and enjoyment of present and future generations. Designated rivers
receive protection to preserve their-free-flowing condition, to protect the water quality and to
fulfill other vital national conservation purposes. I believe Connecticut's Eightmile River
possesses all of these qualities, deserves all of these protections and should be looked at by the
National Park Service as an important addition to the National Wild and Scenic River System.
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    I am very proud to submit this legislation at the request of my constituents in East Haddam,
Salem and Lyme. I am excited that the First Selectman of East Haddam, Sue Merrow and Nathan
Frohling of the Connecticut Nature Conservancy are here in Washington to testify on behalf of
this bill. Thank you.

   

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    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you very much, both of you, for your testimony. Let me ask you, Mr. Simmons, is there
general—I take it from what you said, you feel there is general local support for this?
    Mr. SIMMONS.
Absolutely, and that is a critical point. We have in these letters, they will demonstrate, I think,
beyond a reasonable doubt that each of the three municipalities, and many of the entities of those
municipalities, official entities of those municipalities, and citizens and citizens groups support
this initiative. In a sense, I inherited the issue because, shortly after the election, I went down
into this area and was briefed on the project, and I would say two years at work, at least, had
gone into preparing materials in anticipation of submitting this legislation. So, when I was
briefed, I got a very comprehensive briefing, and I got a very clear sense from public officials,
private individuals and non-profit organizations, that they are all in support of this initiative.
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    Mr. HEFLEY. Well,
that is good, because we would not want, you would not us to force this on the people of
Connecticut if they do not want it personally.     Mr.
SIMMONS. That is a critical comment and that
is why I have asked, as two additional witnesses; one, that we have a representative from the
Nature Conservancy to talk about the environmental aspects of the river, but secondly, we have a
local elected official, a First Selectman, which is essentially a Mayor of one of the three towns,
testify. If, in fact, we were allowed to have more mayors testify, we would have them here, but
we were asked only to bring one.     Mr.
HEFLEY. Thank you. Mr. Pascrell, what is there,
there in Paterson for people to see? Are the mills still in existence, and that is part of what you
are wanting to save?     Mr.
PASCRELL. Mr. Chairman, many of those mills
are still in existence. They have been converted, some of them, to schools, to a museum, to other
manufacturing activities. Most of them are still there, most of them have been preserved, Mr.
Chairman, and this is really something to see in its present form. We just imagine what it would
look like and what would be and what it would produce if we are able to really have this
partnership I have been talking to you about.     This is a nonpartisan
project, Mr. Chairman. The Governor of the State, Donald DiFrancesco just became the
Governor, has written, you have it in the record, his endorsement of this project. The two
Senators from New Jersey are with us one hundred percent, as are the New Jersey members of
this Committee, in support of this project.     Mr.
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HEFLEY. Okay. Thank you. Mrs. Christensen?
    Mrs. CHRISTENSEN.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will enter my statement for the record if that is okay with you.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Without
objection.

    [The prepared statement of Mrs. Christensen follows:]

Statement of The Honorable Donna Christensen, a Delegate to Congress from the Virgin Islands

    Mr. Chairman, today the Subcommittee will receive testimony on three unrelated bills.

    Our first bill, H.R. 146, introduced by Rep. Pascrell, would authorize a National Park Service study of the suitability and feasibility of designating the Great Falls Historic District in Paterson, New Jersey, as a unit of the National Park System. I understand the area has a rich industrial history and that our witnesses will provide us with some details of the resource values found there. Our second bill, H.R. 182, by Mr. Simmons, would authorize a study to determine whether it would be appropriate to designate the Eightmile River as part of the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System. The Eightmile River is located in Southern Connecticut and has already been identified by the National Park Service as a potential Wild and Scenic River based on its outstanding scenic, geologic, and wildlife values.

    While there is no controversy regarding the merits of H.R. 182, it is our understanding that the Administration will testify in opposition to the bill based on its newly proposed moratorium on new additions to the National Park System. We look forward to hearing more about this new policy.
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    Our last bill, H.R. 601, introduced by Rep. Simpson, would provide for hunting on the Federal lands that were included within the Craters of the Moon National Monument when the monument was enlarged on November 9, 2000. The bill also provides for the disposition of grazing fees arising from the use of the expansion area. I understand that there are some unusual circumstances pertaining to these matters at the monument that the Administration witness will be able to elaborate on.

    Mr. Chairman, we appreciate the presence of our witnesses here today and look forward to their insights on the legislation that is before us.

   

    Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. I
have also been asked to enter the statement of Congressman Pallone for the record, I ask
unanimous consent.     Mr.
HEFLEY. Without objection.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Pallone follows:]

Statement of The Honorable Frank Pallone, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey, on H.R. 146

    I support H.R. 146, legislation introduced by my colleague Representative Pascrell of New
Jersey. H.R. 146 calls for a study of the Great Falls National Historic District to determine the
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feasibility of adding this location to the National Park System. Representative Pascrell has
identified a unique place, rich in the history of America's development. The Great Falls Historic
District deserves great attention; it deserves designation as a National Park.

    At the heart of the Great Falls Historic District is the 77-foot Great Falls of the Passaic
River, the second largest waterfall by volume east of the Mississippi River and a key in our
nation's manufacturing history. In 1791, Alexander Hamilton selected the Great Falls for the
creation of an industrial site and with Pierre Charles L'Enfant designed a waterpower system to
increase the Nation's manufacturing capabilities. Hamilton believed that America to be free from
British influence, must be industrially free ; Great Falls is one or our founding father's creations.

    The Great Falls Historic District contains examples of 18th, 19th, and 20th-century
water-powered remnants, including a three-tiered raceway and an abundance of mills. This
District is the historical home to the first Colt revolver at Samuel Colt's Works, the first
locomotives and airplane engines at Rogers Works, and is also known around the world as
''Silk City''. Great Falls Historic District includes examples of almost every type of manufacturing
facility built during America's industrial revolution.

    Additionally, Paterson, New Jersey is rich with the history of America's immigrant workers.
Migration patterns of workers in Paterson provide a sketch of America's immigrant population
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and the role of immigrants in America's factories. Further, labor issues in this industrial
workplace led to the need for labor laws that formed the foundation of today's labor movement.

    I support my colleague's approach to review the potential of the Great Falls Historic District
as a National Park. The Great Falls Historic District is an example of New Jersey's development,
New Jersey's brilliant ingenuity and New Jersey's insight that should be preserved to serve as a
history lesson to Americans for years to come.

   

    Mrs. CHRISTENSEN. I
want to welcome my colleagues, my classmate, Congressman Pascrell, who has introduced the
bill to authorize the National Park Service study. I am well aware of your efforts on all fronts to
improve the economic conditions of Paterson and the surrounding area, and I see this as one
other way of doing this. I did not know that we shared Alexander Hamilton, who grew up in my
district in the Virgin Islands, which makes me even more interested in your bill.
    Mr. Simmons, when I said I would see you soon, I did not expect to see
you this soon at our Committee. Welcome. I am very interested in your bill. I have always been
a supporter of the Scenic River Program, however, at this point, it is my understanding that the
Administration has imposed a moratorium. I will be looking forward to hearing from the
Administration on more about the policy and why it is in place. But, just welcome, and thank you
for being here.     Mr.
SIMMONS. Thank you.
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    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you. Mr. Simpson, did you have some testimony you wanted to share?
    Mr. SIMPSON. No.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Mr.
Gilchrest?     Mr.
GILCHREST. Just a quick question, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Pascrell, how many acres does this cover in Paterson?     Mr.
PASCRELL. About 112 acres, sir.
    Mr. GILCHREST. Who
owns it now?     Mr.
PASCRELL. Well, various people. God owns the
falls, which is in the river and the river runs right through the district. There are private
ownerships. In fact, most of the ownership in the district is privately owned—I would say most of
the commercial properties, there are also residents. It is a mixed zone where the Great Falls
Historic District is. As I pointed out before, President Ford named this landmark back in
1976. We need the help of the Park Service, in a synergistic partnership, to develop this so that
it is really not only a destination for tourists, but that the area itself is alive and continues to grow.
    Mr. GILCHREST. I am
not familiar with the bill. Is it your intention to have this owned and then run by the National
Park Service?     Mr.
PASCRELL. Part of the district, as I said, is the
falls itself. There are parks on both sides of the falls, and that is something, since I am not
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officially part of the government of Paterson, I would recommend that there be some kind of
relationship, some kind of partnership in overseeing that particular parkland. It was never my
intention that the Park Service or the Federal Government own the entire district, sir.
    Mr. GILCHREST. The
entire district is a little over 100 acres?     MR.
PASCRELL. That is correct, sir.
    Mr. GILCHREST. Has
the State wanted to make it a State Park or work with the county to make it a county-state
partnership? Do you need the money from the Federal Government to get some infusion of cash
to make all this happen?     Mr.
PASCRELL. We have had some infusion of Federal
dollars, as I pointed out, back in 1995 to begin the process. This is our first real attempt to get
the Park Service officially to be involved, physically, to be involved there in this
partnership I have talked to you about. The county has endorsed this. The State of New Jersey,
as I have just said to you, the Governor wrote a letter endorsing this particular project. We have
worked this on many different levels, but we do need the Park Service there. I know many times
we are reluctant to talk about the Park Service in urban areas. We tend to think of them more
on a grandiose. This is a very different Committee, though. In the last two sessions we have
gone beyond those old parochialisms and commend this Committee, and that is why I am very
optimistic when I appear before you.     Mr.
GILCHREST. I wish you well. I wish you good
luck. I also wish Mr. Simmons luck on the eight miles of wild and scenic. You don't often think
of Connecticut as wild and scenic, but if you can save a little wild and scenic in Connecticut, we
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are for it.     Mr.
SIMMONS. I appreciate those remarks, sir. As I
indicated, we actually have the Farmington River in the northwestern part of the State, which
flows into the Connecticut River, and it currently has wild and scenic status due to the efforts of
my colleague, Congresswoman Nancy Johnson, some years ago. We do have some unique and
special spots buried away in our tiny little State.     Mr.
GILCHREST. Maybe you can have a sister River in
Idaho called Moose Creek. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

    Mr. HEFLEY. Mr. Simpson?

STATEMENT OF HON. MICHAEL K. SIMPSON, A
REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF IDAHO

    Mr. SIMPSON. Thank
you, Mr. Chairman. I can tell you that I have been to Connecticut and there are places that are
both wild and scenic. I apologize for being late and I did have an opening statement on House
Bill 601 that is on the schedule today. I want to thank you for scheduling this hearing on H.R. 
601. I would like to thank Don Clower of the Idaho Fish and Game Commission and Jack Fisher
of the Idaho Wildlife Federation for traveling all the way to Washington, D.C. to testify on
behalf of this legislation. I understand they are on panel number two.
    On November 9, 2000, President Bill Clinton issued Presidential
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Proclamation 7373 to expand the boundaries of Craters of the Moon National Monument. Prior
to Clinton's proclamation, the monument was comprised of 52,440 acres. President Coolidge
established the monument in 1924. Former President Clinton's approximation expanded the
boundaries to include, approximately, 661,287 acres of additional Federal land. The area is
managed by the Secretary of Interior through the National Park Service and by the Bureau of
Land Management. The National Park Service manages approximately 410,000 acres of the
expansion, while the Bureau of Land Management manages the remaining 251,000 acres.
    When the monument was expanded, it was understood that continued
access to hunting would be maintained. However, when the proclamation was issued, hunting
was restricted in the area of the expansion managed by the National Park Service. Under this
legislation, areas that were open to hunting before the expansion will remain open to hunting
under the jurisdiction and laws of the State of Idaho. The legislation also ensures the grazing
fees collected in the national monument are disposed according to the Taylor Grazing Act.
    Unfortunately, due to the outmoded and antiquated national monument
process, there was not a formal means by which the State of Idaho, the congressional delegation
or the general public could comment on the proposed monument expansion. While the Idaho
Fish and Game Commission expressed their interest in working with the Secretary of Interior to
allow for appropriate wildlife management in the expanded area, their concerns were largely
ignored. When the Idaho congressional delegation and governor spoke with the Secretary of the
Interior about the Craters of the Moon expansion, we were led to believe that hunting would not
be affected. In fact, the relevant language of the proclamation says nothing in this proclamation
shall be deemed to enlarge or diminish the jurisdiction of the State of Idaho with respect to fish
and wildlife management.     However, when the proclamation was
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issued, it was realized that current National Park Service regulations preclude hunting in the area
of the expansion managed by the National Park Service; therefore, denying access to traditional
hunting grounds. H.R. 601 is about fairness and ensuring that Idahoans are not locked out of
traditional hunting areas. H.R. 601 has the support of the Idaho Fish and Game Commission, the
Idaho Fish and Game Advisory Committee, the Idaho Wildlife Council, Idaho Wildlife
Federation and local county commissioners.

    Once again, Mr.
Chairman, I want to thank you for taking the opportunity to hold a hearing on this piece of
legislation that is important to the State of Idaho. When you look at the expansion of the Craters
of the Moon into what is called the Great Rift, this 661,000 additional acres, it is largely lava
rock and sagebrush, and people ask if there are really any deer out there. I can tell you I have never
gotten one with a 30-06, but I have gotten one with a Corvette and a Jeep, so there are plenty of
deer out there. So thank you, Mr. Chairman.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Simpson follows:]

Statement of The Honorable Mike Simpson, a Representative in Congress from the State of Idaho

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    Mr. Chairman, thank you for scheduling this hearing on H.R. 601. I would also like to thank Don Clower, Idaho Fish and Game Commission; and Jack Fisher, Idaho Wildlife Federation, for traveling all the way to Washington, DC to testify on behalf of this legislation.

    On November 9, 2000, former President Bill Clinton issued Presidential Proclamation 7373 to expand the boundaries of the Craters of the Moon National Monument. Prior to Clinton's proclamation, the monument was comprised of 54,440 acres. President Coolidge established the monument in 1924.

    Former President Clinton's proclamation expanded the boundaries to include approximately 661,287 acres of additional federal land. The area is managed by the Secretary of Interior through the National Park Service and the Bureau of Land Management. The National Park Service manages approximately 410,000 acres of the expansion, while the Bureau of Land Management manages the remaining 251,000 acres. When the monument was expanded it was understood that continued access to hunting would be maintained. However, when the proclamation was issued, hunting was restricted in the area of the expansion managed by the National Park Service. Under my legislation, areas that were open to hunting before the expansion will remain open to hunting under the jurisdiction and laws of the State of Idaho. The legislation also ensures that grazing fees collected in the national monument are dispersed according to the Taylor Grazing Act.

    Unfortunately, due to the outmoded and antiquated national monument process there was not a formal means by which the State of Idaho, the congressional delegation, and the general public could comment on the proposed monument expansion. While the Idaho Fish and Game expressed their interest in working with the Secretary of Interior to allow for appropriate wildlife management in the expanded area, their concerns were ignored by an administration that cared little for public input in land management decisions.
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    When the Idaho congressional delegation and Governor spoke with the Secretary of Interior about the Craters of the Moon expansion we were led to believe that hunting would not be affected. However, when the proclamation was issued it was realized that current National Park Service regulations preclude hunting in the area of the expansion managed by the National Park Service. Therefore, denying access to traditional hunting grounds.

    H.R. 601 is about fairness and ensuring that Idahoans are not locked out of traditional hunting areas. H.R. 601 has the support of the Idaho Fish and Game Commission, Idaho Fish and Game Advisory Committee, Idaho Wildlife Council, Idaho Wildlife Federation, and local county commissioners.

    Once again, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for holding this hearing. I am hopeful that the information presented here will allow us to move forward with this common sense legislation.

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. My chief ability to harvest deer in
Colorado has been with my car, too, so I understand what you mean. Gentlemen, if you would
like to join us up here for the remaining part of the hearing, or as much as you can stay, or if you
would like to participate with us in the hearing, we would love to have you do it.
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    Let us go to a second panel. Mr. Joseph Doddridge, Acting Assistant
Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, Department of the Interior; Mr. Don Clower, Idaho
Fish and Game Commission; and Mr. Jack Fisher, Idaho Wildlife Federation. I want to take the
two Gentlemen from Idaho first, because you have come a long way and I understand you have an
airplane to catch later this afternoon. You can choose whichever one of you would like to speak
first and we will go from there.

    Mr. Fisher, you drew the short straw?

    Mr. FISHER. Yes, Mr.
Chairman, I believe that I won the toss in this case.

    Mr. HEFLEY. Which goal do you choose to defend?

STATEMENT OF JACK FISHER, IDAHO WILDLIFE FEDERATION,
NAMPA, IDAHO

    Mr. FISHER. We will
find that out here real soon. Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee, I want to say my
name is Jack Fisher and I'm the President of the Idaho Wildlife Federation. I'm also a member of
the Idaho Fish and Game Advisory Committee. I want to thank you for allowing us to
participate in today's hearing on H.R. 601. My testimony will focus primarily on the hunting
aspect of this resolution, and will be on behalf of the Idaho Wildlife Federation and the Idaho
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Fish and Game Advisory Committee. The Idaho Wildlife Federation is Idaho's oldest
conservation organization. The Federation's primary mission is to promote citizen support for the
conservation of Idaho's wildlife and natural resources, for fishing, hunting and outdoor recreation
benefiting all future generations.     Our current membership totals nearly
6,000 Idaho citizens. The Idaho Wildlife Federation was founded in 1936 and, in fact, this
Friday we will be celebrating our 65th anniversary at our annual meeting. I would also like to
mention that the Idaho Wildlife Federation is an affiliate of the National Wildlife Federation.
    Mr. Chairman, the sportsmen and women of Idaho are extremely
concerned over the loss of the hunting opportunity due to assignment of management
responsibility for the expanded acres of the Craters of the Moon National Monument to the
National Park Service. In our opinion, H.R. 601 has more to do with instilling a sense of faith
in the integrity of our government. When the Craters of the Moon National Monument was being
discussed in Idaho, the Idaho Wildlife Federation voiced concerns that hunting opportunities
might be lost, and it seems that those concerns have proved to be well founded.
    It is our understanding that assurances were given to Idaho's
congressional delegation, as well as Idaho's governor, that hunting would continue to be allowed
if the expansion was approved. Some believe that by merely assigning management
responsibility of the expanded area to the National Park Service, it was going to automatically
eliminate hunting. That is certainly what has happened, and while there are those who support
such restrictions, the Idaho Wildlife Federation is not one of them.     The
very size and remoteness of the area that now comprises the Craters of the Moon National
Monument makes restrictions for hunting needless. I believe it is important to put the size of the
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area we are talking about into perspective. I have researched the size of Washington D.C., and
found out that it encompasses approximately 43,000 acres, or 68.2 square miles. By comparison,
the expanded portion of the Craters of the Moon National Monument encompasses some 661,000
acres, or 948 square miles, which is about 14 times the size of Washington, DC.
    As for lost hunting opportunity, in 1999, elk hunters spent an estimated
2,158 man days afield, and additionally deer hunters spent another 1,238 man days in the area.
In addition, antelope, sage grouse and doves are hunted in significant numbers, which would
further add to the utilization in this area. The loss of nearly 4,000 man days of hunting
opportunity will put additional stress on surrounding wildlife management areas at a time when
hunting pressure is of a growing concern.     The economic impact for
just the deer and elk hunting alone equates to about $210,000. Now, that may not seem like
much of a dollar impact, but in rural Idaho it is definitely very significant. I believe that it is
important to mention that currently the area does not have a wildlife deprivation problem that
would be involving adjacent private landowners' agricultural crops. However, the loss of hunting
opportunity and the lack of harvest of the surplus deer and elk and antelope will most certainly
result in future deprivation problems.

    Controversy surrounding wildlife
deprivation statewide is a constant problem and was the primary reason for creating the Idaho
Fish and Game Advisory Committee initially in 1989. So, in closing, Mr. Chairman, I would
like to extend my appreciation to Representative Mike Simpson for presenting this legislation,
and I would like to point out that virtually nothing has changed except the designation of this
land as part of the Craters of the Moon National Monument, and the transfer of management
responsibility from one government agency to another, and as such, I urge that you and the
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members of your Committee support H.R. 601.     As I had mentioned
earlier in my testimony, this is really an issue about instilling a sense of faith in the integrity of our
government, by keeping promises and restoring our traditional hunting opportunities in this area.
That concludes my testimony on this, sir.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Fisher follows:]

Statement by Jack W. Fisher, President, Idaho Wildlife Federation, and Member, Idaho Department of Fish and Game Advisory Committee

    Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee:
    Thank you for inviting us to participate in today's hearing on House Resolution 601. My testimony will focus on the hunting aspects of the resolution. However, before doing so, I believe it is important to provide you with some background information concerning the Idaho Wildlife Federation who I have the honor of representing. My testimony will also be on behalf of the Idaho Department of Fish and Gem's Advisory Committee of which I am a member. The Advisory Committee's membership represents both sportsmen and agricultural interests.
BACKGROUND
    The Idaho Wildlife Federation is Idaho's oldest conservation organization. The Federation's primary mission is to promote citizen support for the conservation of the state's wildlife and natural resources for fishing, hunting, and outdoor recreation benefiting future generations. We currently have several hundred members and 25 affiliate organizations. Our affiliates represent diverse sportsmen's interests from throughout Idaho including archery, fishing, law enforcement, hunting dogs, wild turkeys and even a herpetological society. Membership to our affiliate groups varies from a relative handful to well over a thousand in the case of the Idaho State Bowhunters organization.
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    The Idaho Wildlife Federation was founded in 1936 as an outgrowth of the national Civilian Conservation Corps program due to growing citizen concern about conservation and wildlife management. This Friday we will be celebrating our 65th anniversary at our annual banquet. I would also like to mention that the Idaho Wildlife Federation is an affiliate of the National Wildlife Federation although we function independently.

IDAHO WILDLIFE FEDERATION'S AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S INTEREST IN H.R. 601

    The sportsmen of Idaho are extremely concerned over the loss of hunting opportunities due to assignment of management responsibility for expanded acreage of the Craters of the Moon National Monument to the National Park Service.
    It is our opinion the resolution has more to do with instilling a sense of faith in the integrity of our government. When the expansion of Craters of the Moon National Monument was being discussed, the Idaho Wildlife Federation was concerned that hunting opportunities might be lost. It seems those concerns have proved to be well founded.

    It has been our understanding that assurances were given to Idaho's congressional delegation as well as Idaho's Governor that hunting would continue to be allowed if the expansion was approved. We are uncertain if some of those involved may have known surreptitiously that, by assigning management responsibility for a portion of the expanded area to the National Park Service, hunting would automatically be restricted. However, that is certainly what has happened and while there may be those who support such restrictions, our organization is not one of them.

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IMPACTS DUE TO THE LOSS OF HUNTING OPPORTUNITIES

    The very size of the area that now comprises the Craters of the Moon National Monument makes restrictions on hunting needless. I believe it is important to try and put the size of the area we are talking about into some sort of perspective. To do so, I researched the size of Washington, D.C. and found it encompasses about 43,648 acres or 68.2 square miles. By comparison, just the expanded area of the Craters of the Moon National Monument encompasses 607,000 acres or about 948 square miles, roughly 14 times the size of Washington, D.C. Thus, with the mere stroke of a pen, such a vast remote area was placed off limits to those who have traditionally hunted in the area.

    I would like to point out that I am not aware of any hunting-related mishaps in the area in question so safety is really not an issue. As for lost hunting opportunities, in 1999 elk hunters spent an estimated 2,158 days in the field and deer hunters another 1,238 days in this area. I was unable to obtain similar estimates for other species such as antelope and sage grouse which would add to the hunter utilization information. From an economic impact standpoint for just elk and deer hunting in the management area involved, the numbers equate to about $210,795. That may not seem like much of a dollar impact to some of you, but in rural Idaho it's significant.

    Additionally, I believe it is important to mention that currently the area does not have a wildlife depredation problem involving adjacent private landowners' agricultural crops. However, the loss of hunting opportunities and harvest of elk and deer will most likely result in a depredation problem due to the inability to keep wildlife populations in check by hunter harvest. Controversies surrounding wildlife depredation in general is a constant problem and was the primary reason for creating the Fish and Game Advisory Committee.
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CONCLUSION

    Mr. Chairman, in closing I would like to extend appreciation to Representative Mike Simpson for sponsoring the resolution. I would also like to point out that virtually nothing has changed except for the designation of the bud as part of the Craters of the Moon National Monument and the transfer of management responsibility from one government agency to another. As such, I urge you and members of your Subcommittee to support House Resolution 601.

    As I mentioned earlier in my testimony, this is really an issue about instilling faith and integrity in our government by keeping promises and retaining traditional hunting opportunities. I would be pleased to respond to any questions that you or other members of your Subcommittee may have at this time.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you very much, Mr. Fisher.

    Mr. Clower?

STATEMENT OF DON CLOWER, IDAHO FISH AND GAME COMMISSION,
MERIDIAN, IDAHO

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    Mr. CLOWER. Mr.
Chairman, members of the Committee, I would like to take just a moment to thank you for the
opportunity to testify in front of the Subcommittee. My name is Don Clower. I am a member of
the Idaho Fish and Game Commission. A brief history of the Idaho Fish and Game Commission;
there are seven commissioners who are appointed by the Governor of Idaho to manage the affairs
of the Idaho Fish and Game department and manage the wildlife in the State of Idaho. I was
appointed to this commission in 1999 by Governor Dirk Kempthorne. The Craters of the Moon
National Monument was expanded to 661,000 acres. Hunting has been a traditional part of this
expansion long before white men ever came to the State of Idaho.     I
would like to point out one part of the proclamation that has been brought up a couple of times
before, but I believe has a great amount of importance on this issue. The proclamation states that
nothing in this proclamation shall be deemed to enlarge or diminish the jurisdiction of the State
of Idaho with respect to fish and wildlife management. We were led to believe, when this
monument proclamation was under discussion, that traditional hunting and other uses of this area
would be guaranteed.     Immediately upon the Park Service taking over
the management of this land, we lost that ability to manage the wildlife and exercise the rights of
the State of Idaho to manage our wildlife. Hunting and trapping will not harm the resources the
monument was established to protect. The monument was originally established and recently
expanded to protect geological formations. This is a very isolated area in the central part of the
State of Idaho, very inaccessible. There is really only one road that passes through Craters of the
Moon. The other roads are two tracks, very unimproved roads that lead out into different
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sections of the lava flow that are available for hunting and trapping. Last year, Jack gave you the
number of man hours that were utilized in the Craters of the Moon for hunting.
    We have a really good elk herd out there that produces outstanding
opportunities to elk hunt. We have a large deer herd and we have a large antelope herd, which
provide opportunity for sportsmen in the State of Idaho to harvest during hunting seasons. Our
hunting seasons are very short. They run for a couple of months in the late fall and they do not
interfere and never have interfered with the management of this particular area. Again, you will
have to understand, this is a very, very remote part of Idaho and fairly inaccessible.
    Prohibiting hunting will result in a loss of unique and highly valued
recreational opportunities. There is a common misconception that no hunting takes place in the
lava flows, but there is a considerable amount of use of this particular area. Prohibiting hunting
and trapping on the expansion is also administratively impractical, if not impossible, because of
having to try to sign the different areas in the lava flow, because if you have ever been out to the
Craters of the Moon, the lava flow comes and goes in a very, very large area. I am not too sure
exactly how you would sign all this area to prohibit hunting in one portion and the other portion
managed by the BLM would continue to allow hunting. So it would be a very difficult area, in
our opinion, to try to manage.     In closing, Mr. Chairman, the Idaho Fish
and Game Commission requests passage of H.R. 601 because it makes sense. The rules
regarding the use of the national monument should be tailored to the resource or the designation
it was designed to protect. Uses that do not conflict with the purpose of the designation should
not only be allowed, they should be encouraged. Hunting and trapping are compatible with the
expanded area of the Craters of the Moon National Monument. These activities have been going
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on there for years without harming the scenic beauty of this unearthly landscape. Let's keep it
that way. I would like to thank the Committee and Congressman Simpson for allowing us the
opportunity to come here today and speak in support of this legislation.
    Thank you.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Clower follows:

Statement of Don Clower, Idaho Fish and Game Commission

    My name is Don Clower. I am a member of and am testifying on behalf of the Idaho Fish and Game Commission. I appreciate the opportunity to address this Subcommittee in support of Congressman Simpson's bill regarding hunting on the recent expansion of the Craters of the Moon National Monument in Idaho.

    The expansion of the Craters of the Moon National Monument was imposed by Presidential Proclamation on November 9, 2000. This expansion was significant, increasing the size of the monument nearly tenfold to 661,000 acres with 410,000 acres to be managed by the National Park Service (NPS). The remaining 250,000 acres will be managed by the BLM.

    The NPS-administered portion of the expansion will be closed to hunting and trapping, in spite of language in the President's proclamation that states: ''Nothing in this proclamation shall be deemed to enlarge or diminish the jurisdiction of the State of Idaho with respect to fish and wildlife management.'' The rationale behind this decision to exclude hunting and trapping seems to be based on the practice that the NPS does not normally allow these activities on lands it administers unless there is legislation specifically allowing hunting and trapping. Hence the apparent need for Congressman Simpson's legislation. We urge you to support this legislation for the following reasons:
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    Hunting and trapping will not harm the resources the monument was established to protect. The monument was originally established and recently expanded to protect geologic formations. These activities will not have any impact on the lava flows or other geologic features of the monument that are any different than other uses of the monument like hiking, photography or sightseeing. Vehicles are restricted to existing roads and trails and apply to all users.

    Hunting and trapping will not interfere with other uses of the monument. Seasons for both activities are relatively short and have limited participation. Hunting is confined to the months of September through November, which are outside the high visitation months of June, July and August while trapping is conducted from December through February. Under Congressman Simpson's proposed legislation, these traditional activities would only be allowed on the expansion, the original monument with its parking areas and visitor center would remain closed to hunting.

    Prohibiting hunting and trapping on the expansion is administratively impractical if not impossible. The expanded monument contains land managed by the NPS and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). The NPS land includes the lava flows and the BLM land includes the sagebrush and grassland habitats surrounding the flows. The boundary between the land managed by the BLM, where hunting will continue to be allowed, and the NPS where hunting is prohibited is indistinct and is not readily discernible by the public. In order to post signs on the boundary, it would have to be surveyed, at considerable expense. The resultant signing would be unsightly and defeat the purpose of protecting the scenic beauty of the area. Until signing is completed, the public will not be able to tell if they are in the area open to hunting and trapping.
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    Prohibiting hunting on the expansion will have negative impacts to nearby farmland. The loss of hunting and expanded refuge created by the monument is likely to result in increases in elk numbers. In the last twenty years, 'elk populations have increased dramatically on the sagebrush steppe lands surrounding the Monument and the Idaho National Engineering and Environmental Laboratory (INEEL). These animals spend the daylight hours where hunting is prohibited and depredate adjacent agricultural lands at night. Large refuges like the INEEL and the expanded Craters Monument make it very difficult to control the size of these elk herds. In addition, higher elk populations could alter the unique native plant communities found in the lava flows and smaller kipukas that the monument desires to protect. Prohibiting hunting and other wildlife management practices will inhibit our ability to manage big game populations at a level that is compatible with other resource uses and values. We suggest that the proposed legislation allow other wildlife management practices on the expansion, like trapping and aerial survey.

    Prohibiting hunting will result in the loss of a unique and highly valued recreational opportunity. There is a common misconception that no hunting takes place on the lava flows. Hunters and trappers do use this area. Those willing to brave the remote and hostile terrain are rewarded with a truly unique recreational experience. Trapping should also be authorized in the legislation.

    Allowing hunting on lands managed by the National Park Service will not set a precedent. In the past the IDFG has successfully advocated maintaining hunting opportunity in the designation of National Monuments in Idaho. When the Hagerman Fossil Beds National Monument and the City of the Rocks National Reserve were designated, both remained open to hunting. The IDFG has worked closely with the NPS and the Idaho Department of Parks and Recreation to ensure hunting does not conflict with other uses of these lands. The Department is committed to continuing this relationship on the expanded Craters of the Moon National Monument.
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    The concerns I have outlined here today will come as no surprise to the NPS, the BLM and other Department of Interior (DOI) officials familiar with the proposal to expand the Craters of the Moon. We were disappointed in the lack of coordination by the DOI in the early phases of this proposal. We were not notified of or invited to participate in public meetings or interagency discussions on expansion of the Craters. In spite of this, the Commission made their concerns known in writing and in testimony prior to the President's proclamation, all to no avail. Our Governor, Dirk Kempthome, has written Secretary Gale Norton on this issue and our legislature has passed a memorial regarding hunting in the Craters expansion area.

    In closing, Mr. Chairman, the Idaho Fish and Game Commission requests passage of this legislation because it makes sense. The rules regarding uses of National Monuments should be tailored to the resources the designation was designed to protect. Uses that do not conflict with the purpose of the designation should not only be allowed, they should be encouraged. Hunting and trapping are compatible with the expanded area of the Craters of the Moon National Monument. These activities have been going on there for years without harming the scenic beauty of this unearthly landscape. Let's keep it that way. I thank you for this opportunity to testify and for your favorable consideration of this request.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you very much.     Mr. Doddridge?

STATEMENT OF JOSEPH E. DODDRIDGE, ACTING
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ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR FISH AND WILDLIFE AND PARKS, DEPARTMENT OF
THE INTERIOR, WASHINGTON, DC

    Mr. DODDRIDGE. Mr.
Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to appear before your Committee today. I have three
different bills to testify on, and I would like to present them, with your concurrence or approval,
in the order that they were presented to you. The first would be H.R. 146, a bill to authorize the
Secretary of the Interior to study the suitability and feasibility of designating the Great Falls
Historic District in Paterson, New Jersey as a unit of the Park System. The Department of the
Interior recommends that the Committee defer action on H.R. 146 until the Park Service is able to
make further progress on the President's initiative to eliminate the deferred maintenance backlog
within the next five years. We are seeking a temporary moratorium on new park unit
designations or authorized new studies so that we can focus our existing staff and resources on
taking care of what we now own. We also want to use our available planning funds to complete
previously authorized studies in establishing new park units or expanding units.
    I should say that, in addition, we are concerned that such a study could
serve to divert the city of Paterson and the National Park Service from the very real opportunities
authorized by Congress in 1992 and 1996, and opportunities that have yet to be fully realized.
As Congressman Pascrell stated, the 1996 legislation provides Paterson with the opportunity
both to demonstrate its capacity for leadership and partnership, and to develop and implement a
preservation program as indicators of its commitment and capacity. Successful completion of
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that program could lead to a future congressional designation or a reauthorized partnership
funding, as appropriate. Our concern is, given the limited resources we have for special
resources study, that this could divert attention from existing opportunity authorized in the 1996
Act.

    This could take a few years to complete, especially when
considering other congressionally authorized studies that are competing for limited resources
available to the program. If the recommendations of the study were negative and the
congressional action forthcoming, there would be no preservation or development action
available to us. Mr. Chairman, that concludes my testimony.     The next
bill, which is H.R. 182, would amend the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act by designating
segments of the Eightmile River for study and potential addition to the Wild and Scenic River
System. As in the previous bill, Mr. Chairman, we recommend that the Committee defer action on
this until we can make further progress on our initiative to eliminate the backlog within the next
five years.     We are seeking this temporary moratorium until we can sort
this out and make some progress in this area. I should point out, as Congressman Simmons
indicates, that over the past couple of years, the Park Service has responded to interest and
inquiries from local advocates and town officials regarding a potential Wild and Scenic River
study for the Eightmile River. There appears to be strong local commitment and interest and
support for protecting the river system, as evidenced by the Committee's formation of an
intermunicipal watershed committee and the signing of an innovative Eightmile River watershed
conservation concept. The concept, signed by the communities of East Haddam, Lyme and Salem
acknowledge their commitment to protect and enhance water resources, wildlife habitats and
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rural landscapes in the watershed.     I should also point out that, in going
through the material before this hearing, the Fish and Wildlife Service has also worked closely
with the local communities as far as possible additions to the Conte Refuge. So there is more
than one agency in the Department of the Interior that is interested in this watershed. But
notwithstanding the strong support, we again recommend that Congress defer action on this until
we make further progress in eliminating our maintenance backlog. Thank you.
    As far as the third bill which I am here to testify on today, H.R. 601, a bill to ensure continued access of hunters to those Federal lands included within the
boundaries of the Craters of the Moon National Monument in the State of Idaho, pursuant to
Presidential Proclamation 7373 on November 9, 2000, and to continue the applicability of the
Taylor Grazing Act and the disposition of grazing fees arising from the use of such lands, and for
other purposes.

    Mr. Chairman, the Department supports H.R. 601,
which would preserve hunting on the NPS-managed portion of the monument expansion. As
Congressman Simpson pointed out, and the gentleman from Idaho, prior to the recent
proclamation, Craters of the Moon National Monument was managed solely by the National Park
Service. The expansion of the monument, however, consists of lands that have been
administered by the Bureau of Land Management. The proclamation gives both agencies
responsibilities for administering the monument cooperatively. The National Park Service has
the primary management responsibility for the old monument, plus the approximate 400,000-acre
addition that consists of exposed lava flows. The Bureau of Land Management is responsible for
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administering the remainder of the portion.     The proclamation specified
that the NPS portion is to be managed under the same laws and regulations that applied to the
original monument. Since hunting has not been authorized in the original Craters of the Moon
National Monument, the effect of the proclamation was to prohibit hunting in the NPS portion of
the monument expansion. However, the Department supports a clarification of this language to
allow continued use of the lands in the expanded monument area for hunting. Hunting in a
portion of the monument administered by the Bureau of Land Management is not affected.

    The Department also recognizes that legislation to provide the authority
for hunting within the NPS management portion of the monument expansion would give the
superintendent the ability to work cooperatively with the State of Idaho on issues concerning
adjacent landowners. For example, hunting could be used as a tool in mitigating agricultural
depredation caused by elk grazing on alfalfa crops on privately owned lands outside the
monument. While the Department supports legislation to continue hunting in the NPS portion of
the monument, this does not include support for opening to hunting the portion of the monument
that existed prior to the proclamation. That portion has always been and should continue to be
closed to hunting. In addition, I would like to clarify that the Department's position on this specific
issue does not indicate support for opening other areas of the park system to hunting.

    I will be finished shortly, Mr. Chairman. While the Department supports
the intent of H.R. 601, to open the NPS-managed portion of the monument expansion, we are
concerned over the language in Section 1(b) that appears to preclude any authority of the
Secretary to exercise jurisdiction over the activity. Is that an omen, Congressman?
    [Laughter.]
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    Mr. SIMPSON. I
would say that was the first negative thing you said.     [Laughter.]
    Mr. DODDRIDGE. We
believe that the Secretary has a role to play in cooperation with the State to ensure that hunting is
consistent with public safety, area administration, protection of the monument's resources, and
public use and enjoyment. We have attached proposed language for the Committee's
consideration that is consistent with similar provisions and laws that authorize hunting in other
park areas. H.R. 601 also requires the Taylor Grazing Act to continue to apply to the disposition
of grazing fees arising from the use of the expansion area.     It requires a
certain percentage of fees to be returned to the grazing district in which the use occurs.
However, it is my understanding that since no grazing occurs in the NPS portion of the
expansion area and the proclamation does not affect grazing on the BLM portion, we feel this
provision is unnecessary. This concludes my testimony on the three bills, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you.

    [The prepared statements of Mr. Doddridge follow:]     

Statement of Joseph E. Doddridge, Acting Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, Department of the Interior, on H.R. 146

    Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to appear before your Committee to present the views of the Department of the Interior on H.R. 146, a bill to authorize the Secretary of the
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Interior to study the suitability and feasibility of designating the Great Falls Historic District in Paterson, New Jersey, as a unit of the National Park System.

    The Department of the Interior recommends that the Committee defer action on H.R. 146 until the National Park Service (NPS) is able to make further progress on the President's
Initiative to eliminate the deferred maintenance backlog within five years. We are seeking a temporary moratorium on new park unit designations or authorizations of new studies so that we
can focus our existing staff and resources on taking care of what we now own. We also want to use our available planning funds to complete previously authorized studies with a close examination of the life-cycle costs of establishing a new park unit, expanding an existing unit, or adding new NPS funding obligations.

    Paterson, New Jersey has a rich history as the Nation's first planned industrial city as well as
containing some of the country's oldest textile mills. In 1792, Alexander Hamilton formed an
investment group called the Society of Useful Manufactures whose funds would be used to
develop a planned industrial city in the United States that was later to become Paterson.
Hamilton believed that the United States needed to reduce its dependence on foreign goods and
should instead develop its own industries. The industries developed in Paterson were powered by
the 77-foot high Great Falls of the Passaic, and a system of water raceways that harnessed the
power of the falls. The district originally included dozens of mill buildings and other
manufacturing structures associated with the textile industry and later, the firearms, silk, and
railroad locomotive manufacturing industries. In the latter half of the 1800's, silk production
became the dominant industry and formed the basis of Paterson's most prosperous period,
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earning it the nickname Silk City. Paterson was also the site of historic labor unrest that focused
on anti-child labor legislation, safety in the workplace, a minimum wage, and reasonable
working hours.

    Industrial decline in Paterson followed the general pattern for northern textile cities, with a
major decrease in business during the middle third of the 20th Century. Today, the historic
district reflects many phases of decline and renewal: some buildings are deteriorated and vacant,
while others continue in industrial use or have been adaptively reused for housing and offices.

    Because of its significant role in the economic and industrial development of the United
States, the 89-acre Great Falls of the Passaic/Society of Useful Manufactures Historic District
was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1970 and designated a National Historic
Landmark (NHL) in 1976. Since 1988 the District has been listed as a Priority One threatened
National Historic Landmark in the Department of the Interior's annual report to Congress on
NHLs. This threatened status is primarily based on the condition of the 7-acre site that formerly
housed the Allied Textile Printers. This site, immediately below the Great Falls, has been
devastated by a dozen fires over the last 15 years. The site was acquired by the city of Paterson
through foreclosure in 1994 and a developer is currently under contract to redevelop the site.

    In addition, we are concerned that such a study would serve to divert the city of Paterson
and the National Park Service from the very real opportunities authorized by Congress in 1992
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and 1996, opportunities that have yet to be fully realized.

    In the Fiscal Year 1992 Appropriations bill for the Department of the Interior, Congress
appropriated funds for the New Jersey Urban History Initiative to provide funding for historic
preservation projects that encourage economic development. The city of Paterson was authorized
to receive $4.147 million in Urban History Initiative funds to be administered by the NPS under
a cooperative agreement with the City. Over the years, the NPS has worked closely with the City
to use the money to protect historic resources while fostering compatible economic development.
This initiative has shown results such as funding projects for research, community grants, and
restoration of historic resources. For example, Urban History Initiative funds were used for an
oral history project and ethnographic study conducted by the Library of Congress American
Folklife Center. Funds were also used for the stabilization of the ruins of the Colt Gun Mill as
part of a match for a New Jersey Historic Trust grant to the city of Paterson.

    The second major congressional initiative to support historic preservation opportunities in
Paterson is section 510 of the Omnibus Parks and Public Lands Management Act of 1996 (Public
Law 104-333; 110 Stat. 4158). The Great Falls Historic District was authorized for $3.3 million
in matching grants and assistance to develop and implement a preservation and interpretive plan
for the District, and permit the development of a market analysis with recommendations of the
economic development potential of the District. Yet, none of these funds authorized in 1996 have
been appropriated.

    Although the City has committed to the raising of the matching funds required under the
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authorization, we do not believe that this has yet occurred. Such matching funds will be
important because recent legislation indicates that Congress expects significant non-Federal
matches for new units of the national park system containing large numbers of historic buildings
such as the New Bedford National Historical Park and Boston Harbor Islands National
Recreation Area. Without this demonstrated local financial support for the operation and
protection of new park units, it is probably not feasible to recommend their addition to the
System.

    The 1996 legislation provides Paterson with the opportunity both to demonstrate its capacity
for partnership, and to develop and implement a preservation program as indicators of its
commitment and capacity. The successful completion of that program could lead to a future
congressional designation or reauthorized partnership funding as appropriate.

    Our concern is that given limited resources, a special resource study (SRS) could divert
attention from the existing opportunities authorized in the 1996 Act. The SRS could easily take
years to complete, especially when considering other congressionally authorized studies that are
competing for limited money available in this program. If the recommendations of the study
were negative and no congressional action forthcoming, years would have passed with no
preservation or development action.

    The National Park Service believes in the important historic and natural resources in the city
of Paterson, and we believe in the capacity of the City to identify matching funding. There are
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signs this is beginning to happen. The breadth of activities allowed under the 1996 Act is much
greater than those normally authorized for a national park unit. It is our sincere wish that the
currently authorized preservation initiative for Paterson be allowed to proceed rather than being
delayed by a study.

    Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to comment. This concludes my prepared
remarks and I will be happy to answer any questions you or other Committee members might
have.

   

Statement of Joseph E. Doddridge, Acting Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, Department of the Interior, on H.R. 182

    Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss the
views of the Department of the Interior on H.R. 182. H.R. 182 would amend the Wild and Scenic
Rivers Act by designating segments of the Eightmile River for study and potential addition to
the Wild and Scenic Rivers System.

    The Department of the Interior recommends that the Committee defer action on H.R. 182
until the National Park Service (NPS) is able to make further progress on the President's
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Initiative to eliminate the deferred maintenance backlog within five years. We are seeking a
temporary moratorium on new park unit designations or authorizations of new studies so that we
can focus our existing staff and resources on taking care of what we now own. We also want to
use our available planning funds to complete previously authorized studies with a close
examination of the life-cycle costs of establishing a new park unit, expanding an existing unit, or
adding new NPS funding obligations.

    The Eightmile River is located in the lower Connecticut River watershed in south central
Connecticut. Fifteen miles of the Eightmile River and its East Branch through the communities
of Lyme, East Haddam, and Salem, Connecticut are included on the National Park Service's
Nationwide Rivers Inventory of potential Wild and Scenic River segments. Both segments are
included on the Inventory for outstanding scenic, geologic, fish and wildlife values. Over eighty
percent of the Connecticut River watershed is still forested, including large tracts of
unfragmented hardwood forests that are home to a diverse assemblage of plants and animals
including bobcats, Great Horned Owls, red foxes, and the Cerbulean Warbler.

    Over the course of the past two years, the National Park Service has responded to interest and
inquiries from local advocates and town officials regarding a potential Wild and Scenic River
study for the Eightmile River. There appears to be strong local support for protecting the river
system, as evidenced by the communities formation of an inter-municipal watershed committee
and the signing of an innovative Eightmile River Watershed Conservation Compact. This
compact, signed by the communities of East Haddam, Lyme and Salem, acknowledges their
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commitment to protect and enhance water resources, wildlife habitats, and rural landscapes in the
watershed.

    Notwithstanding the strong local support, we again recommend that the Committee defer
action on the bill until the National Park Service is able to make further progress to eliminate the
deferred maintenance backlog.

    This concludes my prepared remarks, Mr. Chairman. I will be happy to answer any
questions you or other Committee members may have regarding this bill.

   

Statement of Joseph E. Doddridge, Acting Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks, Department of the Interior, on H.R. 601

    Mr. Chairman, members of the Subcommittee, I appreciate the opportunity to appear before
you today to present the views of the Department of the Interior on H.R. 601, a bill to ensure the
continued access of hunters to those Federal lands included within the boundaries of the Craters
of the Moon National Monument in the State of Idaho pursuant to Presidential Proclamation
7373 on November 9, 2000, and to continue the applicability of the Taylor Grazing Act to the
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disposition of grazing fees arising from the use of such lands, and for other purposes.

    The Department supports H.R. 601, which would preserve hunting on the NPS-managed
portion of the monument expansion.

    Craters of the Moon National Monument was established by Proclamation of President
Calvin Coolidge in 1924 for the purpose of protecting the unusual landscape of the Craters of the
Moon lava field. This unusual landscape was thought to resemble the surface of the Moon and
the Proclamation stated that the area ''contains many curious and unusual phenomena of great
educational value and has a weird and scenic landscape peculiar to itself.'' Between 1924 and
1962, the monument was expanded and boundary adjustments were made through four
Presidential proclamations. In 1996, a minor boundary adjustment was made by section 205 of
the Omnibus Parks and Public Lands Management Act of 1996 (110 Stat. 4093; Public Law
104-333). On November 9, 2000, President Clinton's proclamation expanded the 53,440-acre
monument by adding approximately 661,287 acres of Federal lands.

    The expanded monument includes almost all the features of basaltic volcanism, including
the craters, cones, lava flows, caves, and fissures of the 65-mile long Great Rift, a geological
feature that is comparable to the great rift zones of Iceland and Hawaii. It comprises the most
diverse and geologically recent part of the lava terrain that covers the southern Snake River
Plain, a broad lava plain made up of innumerable basalt lava flows that erupted during the past 5
million years.
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    Prior to the recent proclamation, Craters of the Moon National Monument was managed
solely by the National Park Service. The expansion area of the monument, however, consists of
lands that had been administered by the Bureau of Land Management. The proclamation gives
both agencies responsibilities for administering the monument cooperatively. The National Park
Service has the primary management responsibility for the old monument, plus the
approximately 400,000-acre portion of the expansion area that consists of exposed lava flows.
The Bureau of Land Management is responsible for administering the remaining portion of the
monument.

    The proclamation specified that the NPS portion of the monument expansion is to be
managed under the same laws and regulations that applied to the original monument. Since
hunting has not been authorized in the original Craters of the Moon National Monument, the
effect of the proclamation was to prohibit hunting in the NPS portion of the monument
expansion. However, the Department supports a clarification of this language to allow the
continued use of the lands in the expanded monument area for hunting. Hunting in the portion of
the monument administered by the Bureau of Land Management is not affected.

    Furthermore, although the proclamation specifies that the National Park Service has
jurisdiction over the exposed lava flows, the on-the-ground reality is that there is not a precise
delineation between areas of vegetation and areas of bare rock, making it difficult in many cases
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to determine the exact location of the boundary. For the average visitor or hunter, it would be
difficult, if not impossible to distinguish whether they were on BLM lands or NPS lands, at least
in the vicinity of the jurisdictional boundaries.

    The Department also recognizes that legislation to provide the authority for hunting within
the NPS-managed portion of the monument expansion would give the Superintendent the ability
to work cooperatively with the State of Idaho on issues concerning adjacent landowners. For
example, hunting could be used as a tool in mitigating agricultural depredation caused by elk
grazing on alfalfa crops on privately owned lands outside the monument.

    While the Department supports legislation to allow continued hunting in the NPS portion of
the Craters of the Moon expansion area, this does not include support for opening to hunting the
portion of the monument that existed prior to the proclamation of November 9, 2000. That
portion of the national monument has always been, and should continue to be closed to hunting.

    In addition, I would like to clarify that the Department's position on this specific issue does
not indicate support for opening other areas of the National Park System to hunting.

    While the Department supports the intent of H.R. 601 to open the NPS-managed portion of
the monument expansion to hunting, we are concerned over the language in section 1(b) that
appears to preclude any authority of the Secretary to exercise jurisdiction over the activity. We
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believe that the Secretary has a role to play, in cooperation with the State, to ensure that hunting
is consistent with public safety, area administration, protection of the monument's resources, and
public use and enjoyment of the monument. We have attached proposed language for the
Committee's consideration that is consistent with similar provisions in laws that authorize
hunting in other park areas.

    H.R. 601 also requires the Taylor Grazing Act to continue to apply to the disposition of
grazing fees arising from use of the expansion area. The Act requires a certain percentage of
grazing fees to be returned to the grazing district in which the use occurs. However, since no
grazing occurs in the NPS portion of the expansion area and the proclamation does not affect
grazing on the BLM portion, we feel this provision is unnecessary.

    This concludes my testimony on H.R. 601. I would be glad to answer any questions you
may have.

    Proposed amendment to H.R. 601 On page 3, strike lines 10 through 16 and insert the
following:

    ''(b) Continued Access for Hunting.—-The Secretary shall permit hunting on those portions
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of Craters of the Moon National Monument that were open to hunting before the issuance of
Presidential Proclamation 7373 of November 9, 2000 in accordance with the applicable laws of
the United States and the State of Idaho. The Secretary, in consultation with the State, may
designate zones where and periods when no hunting may be permitted for reasons of public
safety, protection of the monument's resources, area administration, or public use and enjoyment.
Except in emergencies, any regulations prescribing such restrictions relating to hunting shall be
put in effect only after consultation with the appropriate state agency having jurisdiction over
hunting.''.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. Mr.
Doddridge, let me just clarify, does the Department intend to object to every study or designation
until the backlog is taken care of, not particularly Wild and Scenic Rivers, but any of them?
    Mr. DODDRIDGE. I
really cannot answer that question, Mr. Hefley. I think the Secretary is studying this issue right
now. I would think for us to come up before you for the next four years to say that, well, we are
getting there but we are not quite there yet, would probably be not the most prudent course of
action.     Mr. HEFLEY. I
think that is going to be difficult. Do you know how many studies are out there that are yet to be
completed?     Mr.
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DODDRIDGE. Mr. Chairman, I do not know that
off the top of my head, but I will be glad to provide that for the record.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Okay.
    Mrs. Christensen?
    Mrs. CHRISTENSEN.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question also for Mr. Doddridge on H.R. 146 and H.R. 182,
because just last week we had a hearing where the Administration supported a study for the
Ronald Reagan Boyhood Home. Do you have some criteria by which you decide when a study
would be permitted and when a study would not be permitted?     Mr.
DODDRIDGE. Well, I think as far as the bill that
we were discussing, that there are other prudent courses of action that we could take. At the
present time, until we exhaust those, I am not sure that we really need a study at this point in
time. Are we talking about H.R. 146, Congresswoman?     Mrs.
CHRISTENSEN. Yes.
    Mr. DODDRIDGE.
Okay. I think there is enough existing authority out there right now for the Park Service to work
closely with the officials in Paterson, New Jersey, to make some progress. In fact, there are $3.3
million authorized right now, subject to matching funds. We, of course, would have to then go
back to appropriations to receive those funds, but I think a lot of progress could be made.
    Mrs. CHRISTENSEN.
Well, I think you had the same objection to both of those bills, but I am still not clear. Even
though there may be existing programs under which Paterson, for example, might get funding,
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you use the moratorium and the need to complete studies as the reason for your opposition, and I
am still not clear what criteria do you use, since in the other instance the study was permitted?
    Mr. DODDRIDGE. To
tell you the truth, I am really not that familiar with the testimony on the Reagan Boyhood Home,
but I will be glad to answer that question for the record.     Mrs.
CHRISTENSEN. I guess my other questions would
be for Mr. Fisher and Mr. Clower. It is my understanding that there are some unusual
circumstances pertaining to the matters of this monument, why grazing or hunting might be
permitted; perhaps I see one, keeping wildlife in check. Are there other unusual circumstances
why we should continue to permit the hunting or the grazing in this area?
    Mr. CLOWER. Madame
Chair, I will try to answer that if I understand the question correctly. In this general region, there
is the INEEL, which is another government land closure area where we have wildlife; and the
wildlife there, the State is not allowed to manage, and they have become increasingly a very
large problem, depredation, mostly elk, and back in the late 1980's we had a large number of
antelope that caused a large amount of depredation problems, and they stay in an area where
they cannot be managed, and at night they maraud out on adjacent farmland and cause a great
amount of damage to the crops, especially alfalfa, which is grown in this area. If we are not
allowed to manage the wildlife, it becomes a burden on the taxpayers of the State of Idaho
because they have to pay for the depredation loss.     Mrs.
CHRISTENSEN. Mr. Fisher, you mentioned that
there had not been any safety problems with hunting in the area, where hunting has been
permitted. Would you anticipate any increase in safety issues with the expansion of the
monument? There have not been any thus far, but now we are expanding the monument and
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hunting would continue in the expanded area. Are there provisions to protect individuals or do
you anticipate that the safety issues would remain the same, even given the expansion?
    Mr. FISHER. I do not
view this as a potential safety problem. This is a tremendously remote area that is basically
roadless. The personnel that go into this area, they have to do so knowingly, and I know that
there has been no incidents in this area that had previously been allowed to be hunted on, and I
certainly would not anticipate any in the future from the continued use of hunting in the area.
    Mrs. CHRISTENSEN.
Can I just reserve the balance of my time, if I have other questions for the panel?
    Mr. HEFLEY. Sure.
Mr. Simpson, since these are your witnesses here and we need to get them to an airplane, I would
see if you have anything you would like to ask.     Mr.
SIMPSON. I am going to say, listening to the
weather outside, I am not sure the airplane is going to leave.     Mr.
Clower, did not the State of Idaho previously manage the wildlife in that area? It was the Fish
and Game Commission that set the rules and regulations and so forth, prior to this designation?
    Mr. CLOWER. That is
correct. The Department managed all the wildlife in the State of Idaho, and we managed the
wildlife in the expanded portion of the monument. We have hunting seasons and other
regulations in place to manage the wildlife for the people of the State of Idaho.
    Mr. SIMPSON. Mr.
Doddridge, you suggested that the language—that you were concerned about hunting under the
jurisdiction and the laws of the State of Idaho, that you would like to see some language,
alternative language, that includes consultation or something like that with the Secretary; is that
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correct?     Mr.
DODDRIDGE. That is correct, Congressman, yes.
    Mr. SIMPSON. Do you
have that language?     Mr.
DODDRIDGE. Yes, we do. Do you want me to
read it, sir?     Mr.
SIMPSON. Yes, if you would, please.
    Mr. DODDRIDGE. The
Secretary shall permit hunting on those portions of the Craters of the Moon National Monument
that were open to hunting before the issuance of Presidential Proclamation 7373 of November 9,
2000 in accordance with applicable laws of the United States and the State of Idaho. The
Secretary, in consultation with the State, may designate zones or periods where no hunting may
be permitted for reasons of public safety, protection of the monument's resources, area
administration or public use and enjoyment. Except in emergencies, any regulations prescribed
in such restrictions relating to hunting shall be put into effect only after consultation with the
appropriate State agency having jurisdiction over hunting.     Mr.
SIMPSON. So this language would effectively
put the Secretary in charge?     Mr.
DODDRIDGE. I think I would look at it, sir, that it
is really putting both the State and the Secretary in charge. They would have to consult and
agree on what areas are to be opened or closed if some such emergency exists.
    Mr. SIMPSON. Mr.
Clower, what is your impression of that language?     Mr.
CLOWER. I guess my first question,
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Congressman, is if it came to an impasse, who would be the final decision maker?
    Mr. SIMPSON. That is
kind of my concern, too. If you have got two people regulating something, who makes the final
decision? That is why I say that would put the Secretary in charge with that language, as I
understand it.     Mr.
DODDRIDGE. Well, the Park Service presently
allows hunting in 58 other units of the system, generally preserves and things of that nature, and
work cooperatively with State agencies in the portions affected. In fact, one of the other places
may be in the State of Idaho. It always seems that it works out that the Superintendent there works
with the State, at least that is my understanding.     Mr.
SIMPSON. Okay. Well, I appreciate that and I
look forward to working with you to make sure that we get this language, because I think the
Secretary should have some input and oversight over that also, and I do not have a problem with
that, and I look forward to working with you to clarify that, and maybe at the markup in the Full
Committee we will offer an amendment that we can work out that will do that.
    Mr. DODDRIDGE.
Thank you, Mr. Simpson. We look forward to working with you, too.
    Mr. SIMPSON. I might
also say, if I might, just for the record, Mr. Chairman, the reason that the area relative to the
Taylor Grazing Act is in this legislation, it was brought to our attention by several individuals
who had talked with—you know this is talked with and they told me and this kind of stuff—several
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of the ranchers were concerned about the distribution of the fees under the Taylor Grazing Act, in
that area that is administered by the BLM. The BLM, the Idaho director, said certainly we will
distribute those fees as the Taylor Grazing Act says we should, and so consequently this
language is not necessary. It is rather redundant. I do not have any problem with actually
putting it in statute, because if at some point in the future you decided to consolidate
management of this expanded area under the National Park Service, instead of the National Park
Service and the BLM, in that case all of the grazing fees would probably go to the National Park
Service, I would suspect. Right now, those fees, according to the Taylor Grazing Act, are
distributed to the Federal Government, the local BLM and the local grazing districts, to manage
the land and so forth. So even if it is unnecessary and redundant to have it in there, I do not have
a problem having it in there, and would just as soon have it in there as not.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you. Any questions on this side? Any questions over here?     Mr.
SIMMONS. Yes, Mr. Chairman, if I could, a
quick question to Mr. Doddridge. It is my understanding from his testimony that his
organization is seeking a temporary moratorium on new studies, and the words seeking and
temporary are of interest to me, obviously. Has this temporary moratorium been granted? Are
we in a moratorium status at this point? If so, what do we mean by the word temporary?
    Mr. DODDRIDGE. I
think what we mean, Congressman, is that as far as the Administration is concerned in our
testimony before various Committees, that is our position at the moment. Unfortunately, as I
mentioned to the Chairman, I do not have a full explanation of the word temporary or how long
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this is going to last, but as I said, I did not think it would be prudent for us to continue to come
up here before the Committee and use those words.     Mr.
SIMMONS. I thank the Gentleman for that
answer. I would also share with the Committee what has already been stated in part, two years of
work have gone into this project bringing it to this point. The University of Connecticut has
expended substantial resources on studying the Eightmile River and have put out a publication,
which is simply the tip of the iceberg. So in actual fact a huge amount of work and money has
already been invested in the project. I cannot believe that this study would create such a
financial burden to the Federal Government or an administrative burden to the Federal
Government, that it would bring it to a halt.     So I look forward to
working with the Committee on this initiative, sharing with the Committee and with the
Administration all of the materials that we have developed in the hope that this temporary
moratorium will, in fact, be temporary and that we can move forward on this important issue.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for your courtesy.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you very much.     Mr. Gilchrest?
    Mr. GILCHREST. Just a
question to Mr. Simmons. Is the eight-mile stretch of this river designated as wild and scenic
from a State perspective? Has the State designated this wild and scenic?
    Mr. SIMMONS. The
State has determined that the prospect of wild and scenic status for this river is of sufficient
priority that the State has expended resources, but only the Federal Government can provide this
status under the Act, and that is why we are here today. Only the Federal Government can help
us.     Mr. GILCHREST. I
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understand the State of Maryland has an ability to designate a river wild and scenic under State
regulations and State law, and then, if you get on top of that Federal designation, that emphasizes
something a little bit more; but the State has—I would hope that while the Department of Interior
is negotiating how long this moratorium will be, that the State of Connecticut pursue this
aggressively, because the bottom line is you are trying to protect that river.
    Mr. SIMMONS.
Absolutely correct. We do not have such language at this point in time, but I will certainly share
it with my colleagues back in Connecticut; and yes, we do not want to delay the project, because
there is development pressure in eastern Connecticut, and this unique resource could be lost to us
over the next decade.     Mr.
GILCHREST. I wish you well; and Mr. Fisher, Mr.
Clower, Mr. Doddridge, you all had excellent testimony, and we will help Mr. Simpson pursue
what will benefit the Nation and the people of Idaho. I just had a couple of quick questions. We
talked about hunting issues. Are there trapping issues in this area that was designated—the
expansion of the monument; any trapping issues that are similar to hunting issues that might be
ensnared by this process?     Mr.
CLOWER. In Idaho statute, trapping is just a
subheading under hunting, because we talk about hunting as pursuing and the take of wildlife, so
it is the same issue, Congressman.     Mr.
GILCHREST. What is trapped there?
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    Mr. CLOWER. Coyotes
would be trapped, if necessary. You also have bobcat season. There are several other small
furbearers.     Mr.
GILCHREST. Wolverines?
    Mr. CLOWER. No, sir.
The Wolverine is protected in the State of Idaho.     Mr.
GILCHREST. I see. And the grazing activity can
be worked out, since it does not seem to be an impact based on the expansion of the monument,
but for future use that might be beneficial for those people who depend on that. Just out of
curiosity, are there any other predators for the antelope, elk or deer other than man?
    Mr. CLOWER. Yes, sir,
Mr. Congressman. Bobcats and coyotes would be the number one predator out there for—for the
antelope or the deer, especially during this time of year when they are having their young, and
there are a large number of coyotes in this area, and coyotes are hunted year-round in the State of
Idaho.     Mr. GILCHREST.
It sounds like a little critter we have in Maryland called nutria; you just cannot get rid of them.
Well, in all of this activity, I wish all of you well, and we will work with Mr. Simpson to get this
done.     Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Mr.
Pascrell?     Mr.
PASCRELL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr.
Chairman, we have witnesses, as you well know, that will be coming up, but I must take
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exception, if I may, with the policy statement dealing with the deferment, when I know what the
funding has been and how, in a bipartisan way, this Committee over the past few years has come
together to address the interests of all Americans. I have to take exception with the policy, if that
is a policy. We have before us three bills today, all important, and I have supported wildlife
measures since I have been in the Congress; one from Idaho, one dealing with Connecticut, one
New Jersey; you might say that the whole landscape, rural, suburban, and urban.
    It is interesting that my plea before this Committee, and I cannot speak
for Mr. Simmons, but knowing his testimony, understanding and hearing his testimony, we are
talking about the center of economic development, and we are talking about precipitating
economic development. This is the main purpose why we both, for different reasons and in
different places, come before this Committee and humbly say that our history is laid out and it is
very, very clear. Just because we cannot compare—you know, I do support a project dealing with
hundreds of thousands of acres, and we are talking about a very small piece of property
compared to that—nonetheless it does not diminish the priority. Nonetheless it does not diminish,
in any manner, shape or form, the significance.     So because we have
not funded totally what should have been funded, and we have not been able to keep up with
maintenance, is not the fault of the people on this Committee. I have to take exception with that
policy, if it is a stated policy, because that means it will, in many ways, fix the color of what is to
come before this Committee in the future. I would ask you to please consider what we have
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stated on the record. I can speak for myself. I am sorry. I did not mean to speak for Mr.
Simmons—that you humbly consider what we are saying, because first of all it is either needed or
it is not needed and, if it is needed, we need to find a way to do it.

    Both of these bills are authorization bills. They are not providing—appropriating money. That comes
in the next step, and to be told at the very beginning that we should not even be here in the first
place, since you should know the policy, to me is a bit disingenuous, if I do say so myself, Mr.
Chairman. Thank you.     Mr.

HEFLEY. Thank you, and thank the witnesses. We
appreciate you being here. I am sorry. I did not realize you had—I would recognize you.
    Mr. HOLT. Mr.
Chairman, I guess I want to understand better this deferment, because it seems to me that the
Great Falls Historic District, and I commend my colleague, Mr. Pascrell, for his diligence in
pursuing this and the work he has done to highlight this, even in his earlier professional
incarnation as mayor, it seems to me that this district fills the bill for national historic landmarks
as well as any place I can think of, I mean, where significant historic events occurred, prominent
Americans worked and lived, areas that represent the ideas that shaped our Nation.
    I mean, this was the start, in many ways, you could argue, of American
industry. This was the site where America began its ascent to industrial and mercantile
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dominance in the world. It is also a very beautiful sight. It is striking. It is one of the landmarks
of New Jersey, and New Jersey is the most densely populated State in the country, and we have
to work real hard to protect the treasures we have got. So I would hate to see this opportunity
slip past, because we are only asking for a study here. As I understand, that is what the bill is.
    So I would ask—Mr. Doddridge, I suppose, is the best person to express
this—what is the reason that you give for recommending a deferral of even a study of the
appropriateness of this site?     Mr.
DODDRIDGE. Well, Congressman, the reason I
gave is that until the Administration gets a better handle on the $4 billion backlog of the
National Park System, and how, keeping with the Administration's desire to eliminate that
backlog within the next four or five years, we have asked for a temporary moratorium on
designation of new units or studies. So it is really driven by the backlog and our ability to try to
get our hands around that backlog and eliminate it.     Mr.
HOLT. Well, the President, I am pleased to hear,
has made a commitment to appropriating money to deal with that, or to recommending to us
appropriation of money to deal with that backlog. The size of the study we are talking about, as
calculate it, is about one-hundred thousandth of the amount of money that you say is being
considered here. For something as important to the history of the United States and, I should
say, important to New Jersey, I think that is a small price to pay.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you very much, and I think these were good comments. I would say to the Department, I
commend you on the one hand for emphasizing getting your arms around this backlog. This
Committee wants you to get your arms around the backlog, too. I am a little concerned with a $4
billion backlog, it looked like in your budget you are going to ask for $500 million. It is going to
take a long time over five years in order to get done, if that is the rate we go at.
    Secondly, even if we do not designate any more units, and I am not
saying we will not, but even if we do not designate any more units to the Park System during this
moratorium, I think you are going to have trouble holding that policy of no new studies, because
it appears to me that we have some areas that we are going to lose if we do not take some action.
If we put them in a study area, then we can protect them during that period of time. When the
moratorium comes off, if you have done the studies, then we have a priority list of what you
think is important to the units of the Park System. So the idea that we will not ask you to do
additional studies, I think, is a little far-fetched. The idea of whether or not we will designate
additional units under this moratorium, I think that has yet to be decided, but I would just send
that message back to you and you may figure out some way that you can come to us with some
kind of a compromise on this.

    Mr.
DODDRIDGE. Mr. Chairman, you can be sure I
will take that message back down the street.     Mr.

HEFLEY. All right. Thank you very much.
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Thank you Gentlemen from Idaho for coming all the way out here. We appreciate it. We hope
you have a safe trip back. I want to ask Mr. Pascrell if you would introduce our first two
members of this panel, and I am going to ask Mr. Simmons if he would like to introduce the
second two members of this panel.     Mr.
SIMMONS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That
would be my honor and I appreciate again the indulgence of the chair and the support of the
members as we consider this bill. We have before us Sue Merrow, who is the First Selectman of
East Haddam. That makes her the Mayor and the Chief Executive Officer of that town. That is
one of three towns that are sponsoring this legislation. I should also say that she has been very
active in environmental issues, so she brings a nice balance between the municipal interest,
which goes to taxes and goes to economic development, and the environmental interest, which,
of course, for a small State like Connecticut is critically important. Then she is joined by Nathan
Frohling, who represents The Nature Conservancy. I think most of the members are familiar with
that national level organization. I am pleased they are both here and I am excited to hear their
testimony.     Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Mr.
Pascrell?     Mr.
PASCRELL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have
two representatives from Paterson, New Jersey joining us today. One is an Anna-Lisa Dopirak,
who is the director of community development for the city. Anna-Lisa has been working for the
city of Paterson for many, many years. She is a former mayor of the city of Paterson, and was
the business administrator when I was the mayor. So I am prejudiced. She has been working
toward revitalizing the Great Falls Historic District for as long as I can remember. She is an
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invaluable leader within the city government, Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee, and I
am thankful for her leadership.     Also with us today is Pat DiIanni, who
is the founder and president of Vision 20/20, which is a community organization that provides
grassroots support for the revitalization of Passaic County, including the Falls District, and for
the past several years Vision 20/20 has been a community leader on the issue of the Great Falls.

    Mr. Chairman, thank you.

    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you and let's deal with the Paterson issue first, whichever one of you would like to begin.

STATEMENT OF ANNA-LISA DOPIRAK, DIRECTOR, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF PATERSON, PATERSON, NEW JERSEY

    Ms. DOPIRAK. Mr.
Chairman, good afternoon, members of the Committee. My name is Anna-Lisa Dopirak. I am
the director of community development for the city of Paterson. I am here today on behalf of the
citizens of Paterson to convey our support for H.R. 146, the Great Falls Historic District Study
Act of 2001. In 1791, Alexander Hamilton fostered the Organization of the Society for Useful Manufactures. We call it today SUM. He did this because he saw the need to free our young
country from dependence on foreign manufacturers, and he knew that by harnessing the water
power of the Great Falls of the Passaic River, this could be accomplished.
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    After the establishment of the SUM, the mill district evolved over
many years, and it was involved in such things as textile manufacturing, sailmaking, locomotive
construction and the thing for which we are most famous, the production of silk. The Great Falls
Historic District became a physical and cultural textbook of the United States labor movement and
its immigrant history, and it continues that today. It mirrored the prosperity and the recessions of
the 18th, 19th, and 20th-century economic history.     For 150 years, the
mills endured. Generations of families continued to work in them. But in the years following
World War II, major social and economic changes occurred in this country. In the 1950's and
1960's, the mills were seen to be obsolete, as people moved away and manufacturing moved out
into the suburbs. It was believed that the item the mills could be most useful for was to become
highway right-of-way. In fact, the mill area was designated to become a highway right-of-way.
Acquisition and some demolition was actually begun by the Department of Transportation of the
State of New Jersey, and only because a small group of dedicated citizens saw what we were
about to lose, did this change.     The small group of citizens was
instrumental in 1970 in having the Great Falls of Paterson, and the SUM historic district, placed
on the National Register of Historic Places. That stopped the highway. In 1976, as we heard
before, then-President Gerald Ford came to Paterson for the purpose of declaring the Great Falls
SUM a historic landmark district. One year later, in 1977, the raceways and the water power
systems that made the SUM what it was declared a National Historic Mechanical and Civil
Engineering Landmark District. Today, 2001, we are seeking a designation to become possibly a
unit of the National Park System through a study which would be funded by H.R. 146.
    The architectural, natural and historic resources, as well as community
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support, are in place, we believe, to warrant consideration of our request, and that is why we are
here before you today. Since the district's designation in the 1970's, the city has undertaken a
very proactive role to preserve its heritage. It has established a historic preservation commission.
It has become a certified local government for preservation. It has worked with developers, both
for profit and not for profit, to rehabilitate, as well as to reconstruct, sensitive sites within our
historic district. Mills have been converted. Today mills have become residences, offices,
private schools, and a museum.     Our Federal partnership was
established back in the 1970's when we were awarded a grant from the United States Economic
Development Administration for the early work in the historic district. Later, as it was said
before, in the early 1990's we established a partnership with the National Park Service, and that
partnership continues today. We are going back to the United States Economic Development
Authority because we have recognized that one of our most underrated assets is the Passaic
River, and we have an application in to the U.S. EDA to assist us in studying the river, along the
entire length of the river, not just that part of the river that traverses the historic district.
    If the district becomes a part or a unit of the National Park System, we
think this would be a very fitting tribute to Alexander Hamilton. If you remember your early
history, Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson engaged in a great debate, should this
country develop with an agrarian society or should this country develop with an industrial
society? We know that Alexander Hamilton won the debate, and so we feel that this is why it
would be a fitting tribute. Today our country is well known mostly for its industrial prowess.
    Hamilton foresaw the national potential of the SUM historic district
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and its manufacturing base, and today the historic district continues to tell this national story.
The locomotives that were manufactured here helped to build the Panama Canal. They also
helped to move the silver ore from Jerome to the smelter. Colt pistols, the gun that won the
West, they had their start in the historic district. In fact, the mill in which they were developed
still stands. It is in pretty bad condition, but we have stabilized it and we are looking for ways to
rebuild it to its original configuration. The Wright engine, although not manufactured in the
historic district, was certainly manufactured in Paterson as part of its industrial history. The
Wright airplane engine, which powered Lindbergh's flight to Paris, was made in Paterson. It also
supplied the parts of the engines that the Tuskegee Airmen used. Ellis Island, so close to us, our
history of immigrants that came through Ellis Island—they no longer come through Ellis Island,
but we consider that a major part of our history. In an odd way, the historic district even has
reached out to the rarefied world of art.     If you go today to the
Metropolitan Museum in New York City, you will see many exquisite objects that have been
acquired by the museum through the Rogers Fund. For many years, I visited the museum and I
never connected the Rogers Fund with the Rogers Locomotive Erecting Shop from Paterson. In
fact, when I inquired, it was only through a bequest from that very same Rogers family that that
fund was made, and that particular heritage of the Great Falls Historic District is available for
everyone who comes to that museum.     Just over 200 years ago,
Alexander Hamilton himself came to the Congress of the United States. He urged the Congress
to establish, as well as support, a national manufacturing center which had the Great Falls as its
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focus. Congress did not heed his request, but Ladies and Gentlemen, the legacy of Hamilton
endures today in our historic district. So I hope you will give support to H.R. 146. It is a fitting
tribute to Hamilton, and I like to think it represents a 21st century manifestation of his original
request to this august body.     Thank you.

    [The prepared statement of Ms. Dopirak follows:]

Statement of Anna-Lisa Dopirak, Community Development Director,
City of Paterson, Paterson, New Jersey, on H.R. 146

    Good afternoon Chairman Hansen and Honorable members of the Sub-Committee. I am
honored to be before you today to discuss the city of Paterson's support for the Great Falls
Historic District Study Act of 2001. This is an important juncture in the Historic District's long
history and the culmination of years of effort.

A CAPSULE EARLY HISTORY

    In 1791, Alexander Hamilton fostered the organization of the Society for Establishing
Useful Manufactures (SUM) to harness the waterpower of the Great Falls of the Passaic River so
that the young United States could be independent of foreign manufacturing. The mill district
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evolved over the years to include textile manufacturing, sail making, locomotive construction,
and the production of silk. It became a physical and cultural textbook of the United States labor
movement and its immigrant history. It mirrored the prosperity and recessions of 19th and 20th
Century economic history. For 150 years the mills endured. Their products changed, and
generations of families continued to work in them, but in the years following World War II major
social and economic shifts occurred.

A THREAT REVERSED

    In the 1950's and 60's, highways and suburbs grew, and the mills and the Great Falls
neighborhood district were threatened. The mills were believed to have outlived their usefulness
and their neighborhood became the designated area for a new highway. Acquisition and some
demolition by the State Department of Transportation began. It was only through the determined
persistence and not always welcomed efforts of a small group of citizens that the Great Falls of
Paterson and Society for Establishing Useful Manufactures Historic District was listed on the
National Register of Historic Places in 1970, and the highway was stopped.

    In 1976, the Federal Government designated the 108 acres around the falls as the Great
Falls/Society for Establishing Useful Manufactures National Historic Landmark District. In
2001, the city of Paterson seeks designation of the District (GFHD) as an Urban National Park.
We believe the basic infrastructure in terms of natural, historic, and architectural resources and
community support is in hand for serious consideration of national park status. The city of
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Paterson is committed to working with our residents, Passaic County and its other municipalities,
and the state and Federal Government to make the Great Falls/SUM Historic District a unit of the
national park system. Therefore, we support H.R. 146, the Great Falls Historic District Study Act
of 2001.

    Since the 1970 designation as a national district, the small group of early historic district
advocates has grown into a large group of stakeholders. Patersonians may not always agree on
exactly how to develop the GFHD's assets, but we all do agree that the GFHD warrants a
Federally supported review as an urban national park candidate. The designation of the Great
Falls as a unit of the national park system would be a fitting Federal monument to Alexander
Hamilton. Decades past his death, he ultimately won the debate with Jefferson of industrial
versus agrarian development for the United States. His view prevailed, and today our country is
known foremost for its industrial prowess.

PATERSON ACTS

    Since the 1976 historic landmark designation, the city established a historic preservation
commission, became designated as a certified local government to strengthen our local
preservation efforts, and encouraged both for-profit and non-profit developers though multiple
funding sources to rehabilitate and/or re-construct historically sensitive sites in the district. These
include the city's 1970's restoration of the Ivanhoe Wheelhouse, and the construction of the
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Upper Raceway Park utilizing New Jersey Green Acres funds.

    In the late 1970's through the 1980's, the City administered a USEDA Title IX grant of 11.1
million dollars. This grant permitted the total renovation of the Rogers Locomotive Erecting
Shop into the 1st floor Paterson Museum and upper three floors of office space. The city entered
into an agreement with the Great Falls Preservation and Development Corporation (GFPDC) for
the long-term lease of the structure. Simultaneously, basic infrastructure improvements including
design and installation of street furniture, lighting and landscaping were completed. A new open
space, Cianci Park, was created on a former parking lot, and archaeological studies related to these
projects, and others, were completed. The restoration of the facade of the Union Works Mill
opposite the Paterson Museum was completed and protected through a facade easement the city
holds on the building that houses a private school and day-care center.

    Throughout the 1980's mills became residences and offices: these include the Franklin Mill
(offices), the Essex and Phoenix mills (residences) the Ryle-Thompson Houses (offices), and the
Argus Mill (charter school). In 1991, the Port Authority of New York-New Jersey was invited by
then Mayor Bill Pascrell to prepare a study on the economic development opportunities of the
Great Falls Historic District. Shortly thereafter, in 1992, 4.2 million dollars were appropriated by
Congress through former Senator Frank Lautenberg's New Jersey Urban History Initiative (UHI)
funding program. The UHI funds are under the auspices of the National Park Service (NPS)
Mid-Atlantic Regional Office. The NPS staff has been working with representatives of the city of
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Paterson (the Core Advisory Group) and organizations and developers active in the preservation
of the Landmark District. Project activities funded through the UHI are intended to provide a
more formalized basis for development. They include:

* design guideline for the GF/SUM National Historic Landmark District
* environmental assessment of the seven-acre ATP site
* preparation of the draft programmatic agreement for the ATP site
* condition assessment of buildings in the District
* Maxman Report—Historic Industrial Site Analysis ATP Site—
  a pre-development assessment of the historic and archaeological   resources on the site and the feasibility of their retention (or not)
* public service and education in the District through the use of   AmeriCorps workers to undertake certain public works projects
  in the District
* set-aside of district easement/rehabilitation revolving loan fund
* oral history project undertaken by the Library of Congress   American Folklife Center
* Making History—a community grant program awarded to local   individuals or organizations for historical, artistic and cultural projects
  related to the UHI

    At the same time as the UHI began, complementary development and planning efforts
continued. Work progressed as additional funding for the Colt Gun Mill stabilization was
secured. Completion of the first phase of the stabilization included recording and palletizing
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storage of the dissembled stonework. A revised programmatic agreement for the ATP site
pre-development and development activities representing 24 months of consultation among
signatories and interested parties is drafted and awaiting further comments. The city continues to
augment community support of the planning process through a combination of organizational
and planning functions. These include the formation and support of the Downtown Paterson
Special Improvement District (SID) (one of two SID's) and the establishment in 1999 of a
Downtown Historic District on the New Jersey and National Registers. Municipal applications
have been prepared and submitted to the New Jersey DOT-TEA-21 Program for the Upper
Raceway Park and Rogers Locomotive Erecting Shop Enhancements.

WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS

    The importance of Paterson's river environment, the basis for Alexander Hamilton's vision,
has belatedly been recognized politically and is moving forward under a grant application to the
U.S. Economic Development Administration. If successful, riverfront planning extending nearly
the entire length of the Passaic River in Paterson will be undertaken. At the same time, the City
has submitted an application to the New Jersey Green Acres Program for the extension of a river
walk along the Passaic River, east of the Great Falls.

    Support for a feasibility study of designating the Great Falls/SUM is not limited to Paterson,
nor should it be. Others will address the support of Passaic County and surrounding
municipalities, as well as the regional impact.
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    Just over two hundred years ago, Alexander Hamilton petitioned the U.S. Congress to
establish and subsidize a National Manufacturing Center with the Great Falls as its focal point.
The request failed and the SUM chartered by the State of New Jersey resulted. Today, we have in
Paterson the legacy of Hamilton's vision and an opportunity for the U.S. Congress to reconsider
his request in its twenty-first century manifestation.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you.     Mr. DiIanni?

STATEMENT OF PAT DiIANNI, PRESIDENT, VISION 20/20, HAWTHORNE, NEW JERSEY

    Mr. DIIANNI. Good
afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee. I would like to talk to you a little
bit about Passaic County, because I do represent Vision 20/20, which is a Passaic County
organization, established by the board of freeholders as a non-profit corporation. The population
of Passaic County is a little less than 500,000. The lower one-third consists of old industrial
areas intermixed with suburbs, but the upper two-thirds has beautiful ridges, rolling hills, placid
lakes, and most important, the watershed for almost all of northern New Jersey.
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    We want to preserve that watershed by preventing the expansion of
development in that area. We want to make sure that it occurs in the already developed southern
part of the county, and in improving the southern part of the county. The national park would be a very
important keystone for the expansion and the development of all of Passaic County.
    Let me tell
you something about Vision 20/20. It has over 400 members. It has a board of trustees of 38
members; three of them are Freeholders; five of them are Mayors; Vice Presidents of two banks;
the County Surrogate; professionals; business people; and the County Planner.
    Our membership is diverse politically, professionally, ethnically, gender-
and age-wise. I dwell on this structure of Vision 20/20 so that you will understand that it speaks
for all 16 municipalities, since all 16 municipalities are represented on this body.
     Recently,
Vision 20/20 passed a resolution in support of H.R. 146, and the idea of the Great Falls of
Paterson. What has happened recently is that the concept or the possibility of getting a national
park arose. There has been enough of an upwelling of enthusiasm from almost all segments of our
population, The Board of Chosen Freeholders, which is the governing body of the county, adopted
a resolution—I think it was last Thursday—to support this.     The mayor of
Prospect Park faxed a resolution from Prospect Park to my home at 10:30 last night. There are
letters from a number of people, who are interested. We received a call yesterday from the office
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of State Senator John Georgenti, who assured us that a resolution has been or will be filed in the
State Senate of New Jersey, and I understand the same thing will happen in the State Assembly
of New Jersey. The business community is on board.     I spoke to a
representative of the umbrella group that represents four chambers of commerce in our
community. They adopted a resolution unanimously in support of H.R. 146, and wished us well.
As I talk to people on the street from all sections of the county, because I do travel all over the
county, the enthusiasm is encouraging. They understand that this is the first step in the
revitalization of the area, which is sorely needed in our county. I understand there was some
question as to the feasibility of this park at the Great Falls of Passaic County.
    In Passaic County, we have many historic areas, and the park would be
the pendant on the necklace of Passaic County's historic areas. For example, we have the New
Jersey State Botanical Garden at Skylands Manor in Ringwood; the Ringwood Manor and Iron
Works, which supplied cannonballs and other war materials to Washington's army; Long Pond
Iron Works in West Milford, which also supplied war material to Washington's Army; and Federal
Hill in Bloomingdale was a signal station to call the militia companies of northern New Jersey
to defend the ridgeline, the first ridge of the Watchungs. It was fortified by the then-Governor of
New Jersey, and throughout the entire Revolutionary War, it protected the important North-South
Highway, which connected New England all the way south; Washington's headquarters at the
Dey Mansion in Wayne; the site of Lafayette's headquarters in Hawthorne; the Botto House, the
only American labor museum in the United States; Lambert's Castle and Observatory Tower;
Morris Canal Park in Clifton; and the site of Washington's crossing of the Passaic. With all these
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treasures, the Great Falls National Park will be in good company.     We
want to be partners with the Federal Government in celebrating in a meaningful way the cradle of
America's industrial might. The residents of Passaic County will do and are doing their part to
help provide the sinew and muscle to make this happen.
    All Americans ought to have an
opportunity to visit, enjoy the birthplace of America's industrial greatness.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. DiIanni follows:]

Statement of Pat DiIanni, Esquire, President, Vision 20/20

    Good afternoon Honorable Mr. Chairman and the honorable members of the Subcommittee.
    I hail from Passaic County, New Jersey, which has a rich heritage and a diverse natural beauty. There are old industrial centers in the southern portion about 12 miles west of New York City. The northern two-thirds of our county has rolling hills and ridges, a historic mining village, placid lakes and a watershed supplying potable water for most of northern New Jersey.
HISTORY
    There are the Great Falls in Paterson, the 3rd most populous city in New Jersey. These falls are 77 feet high and the 2nd largest in the northeast. Paterson is the 1st planned industrial city in the United States. Former Secretary of Treasury Alexander Hamilton foresaw the industrial capacity needed to make this country great and in 1792 he organized the ''Society for Establishing Useful Manufactures'' to utilize the potential of the Falls to power mills along the Passaic River. The first Colt Gun Mill, the Rogers Locomotive, the first Holland Submarine were all built in Paterson.
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    A tale is told that during the encampment of the Continental Army along the Passaic River in Passaic County, General George Washington and several of his officers including his Aide de Camp, Alexander Hamilton, picnicked at the Great Falls. Twelve years later Mr. Hamilton, remembering the waterpower of the Falls, organized the Society for Useful Manufacturing chartered by the State of New Jersey under then Governor Paterson
    I understand that other testimony will be presented by other witnesses relating to the historic central role Paterson, the Great Falls and the Historic District played in the creation of our great industrial nation. However, I wish to mention a little known story.
    The First Ridge of the Watchungs, which overlooks the Falls, traverses Passaic County from north to south. During the Revolutionary War this ridge was fortified and manned by the militia companies of Northern New Jersey.

    The fortified Ridge protected the Great North-South Highway located west of the ridge. This ''Highway'' was the major line of communications available to the Continental Army connecting New England to the southern part of our fledgling nation. The interdiction of the Great North-South Highway by British Troops then encamped on the Hudson River, a mere 15 miles east, may have proven disastrous for the Continental Army.

PASSAIC COUNTY VISION 20/20, INC.

    I come before you as President and spokesman for Passaic County Vision 20/20, Inc. (Hereinafter referred to as ''Vision 20/20''. Passaic County Vision 20/20 is a non-profit organization, incorporated in 1999 by the Passaic County Board of Freeholders by unanimous, bipartisan resolution.
    Our over 400 members from all 16 Municipalities are volunteers dedicated to improving Passaic County. The 33 member Board of Trustees and five alternates include three (3) Freeholders, five (5) Mayors, Vice Presidents of two banks, the County Surrogate, the County Planner, business people, educators and professionals. Our members are diverse, politically professionally, ethnically, gender-and age-wise.
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    Our corporate mission is broad and comprehensive. It mandates improving the economy, protecting the environment and preserving the history and cultures of Passaic County. The corporation has undertaken more than two (2) dozen projects as diverse as obtaining grants: (a) to install bike and walking paths, (b) to produce annual multicultural events, and (c) to promulgate a County-wide redevelopment ''Smart Growth'' plan to conform to the New Jersey State Development and Redevelopment Plan. The establishment of a National Historic Park at the Great Falls is one of our cherished hopes and a keystone for revitalization. Although we are embarking on many specific projects, our ultimate goal is to make Passaic County a better place in which to live, to work and to play.
COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND ENTHUSIASM FOR H.R. 146 AND THE GREAT FALLS NATIONAL PARK
    I dwell on the structure of our organization to demonstrate to you, that we are broad based and non-political. We are in a unique position to read the pulse of the communities throughout Passaic County. We assure you of strong support for the Great Falls National Historic Park.

    Lisa Macioci, a trustee, and members of her Great Falls National Park Task Force have worked assiduously over the past year and a half promoting the park concept. They report favorable and enthusiastic support among residents within and without Passaic County. The other trustees have noted similar expressions of support. Additionally, the Board of Chosen Freeholders of Passaic County has listed a resolution in support of H.R. 146 for its next open meeting.

    Recently a resolution was unanimously adopted by Vision 20/20 trustees to communicate with local, county and state governing bodies and to launch a petition drive supporting H.R. 146 and the Great Falls National Historic Park proposal. Many Mayors, County Freeholders and State Legislators strongly advocate H.R. 146 and the Great Falls National Historic Park concept. Hopefully, resolutions will be adopted prior to the closing of the record of the hearing. In this regard, I respectfully move that the record remain open for a reasonable time after the conclusion of oral testimony.
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    The general public and especially business people see the Park as an economic engine to spur the economy of Paterson and the entire area. The stakeholders of the county perceive tourism as the major county industry of the future. The Park will be a cornerstone for revitalization of the southern portion of the county while relieving pressure on the environmentally sensitive northern two-thirds of the county and the adjacent Highlands region, presently the focus of some developers' attention.

    The Park has the wholehearted support of the business community, environmentalists, historic preservationists, and John Q. Public. In my travels around the county, I have yet to meet anyone, who does not strongly support the concept of the Great Falls National Historic Park. To the contrary, people wonder why the Federal Government has forsaken this national treasure.

    The Park is within two hours drive for tens of millions of Americans. Major railroads and highways crisscross the region surrounding the Great Falls. Interstate 80 passes within two miles of the site, The Garden State Parkway leads to within one mile of the site. The New Jersey Turnpike gives ready access to the Parkway from the south and from New England. New Jersey Routes No. 3, 4, 20, 46 and Interstate 287 pass within five miles of the Great Falls.

    The Great Falls National Historic Park will not stand alone. Passaic County has scores of historic sites nearby, not the least among these are:

    The New Jersey State Botanical Gardens at Skylands Manor in Ringwood.
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    The Ringwood Manor and Iron Works which supplied cannon balls and other war materiel to Washington's Army.
    Long Pond Iron Works in West Milford.
    Federal Hill in Bloomingdale.
    Washington's Headquarters at the Dey Mansion in Wayne.
    The site of General Lafayette's Headquarters in Hawthorne.
    The Botto House American Labor Museum in Haledon.
    Lambert Castle and Observatory Tower in Paterson.
    Morris Canal Park in Clifton.
    Site of Washington's Crossing of the Passaic River at Aquan-nock Landing in City of Passaic.

    With all these treasures in the surrounding areas of Passaic County, the Great Falls National Historic Park will become the pendant in the pearl necklace of Passaic County, attracting tourists from far and wide.

PASSAIC COUNTY'S FUTURE

    Passaic County, through the efforts of Vision 20/20, was recently awarded a grant by the State of New Jersey to provide in-depth studies and to promulgate long term plans for ''Smart growth'' initiatives throughout the county. The studies and plans will address many aspects of county life in general and tourism in particular. The Park will be central to these plans to rejuvenate the county. We foresee the rebirth of the county similar to the Renaissance in other areas of the country, e.g. San Antonio, Texas, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Baltimore, Maryland, and many others too numerous to list.
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    We ask only to be partners with the Federal Government to celebrate in a meaningful way, the cradle of America's Industrial Power. The residents of Passaic County will do and are doing their part to help provide the sinew and muscle to make this happen. All Americans ought to have an opportunity to visit and enjoy the birthplace of America's Industrial Greatness.

   

    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you very much.     Ms. Merrow? Okay. Mr.
Frohling?

STATEMENT OF NATHAN FROHLING, PROGRAM DIRECTOR, THE NATURE CONSERVANCY, MIDDLETOWN, CONNECTICUT

    Mr. FROHLING. Mr.
Chairman and members of the Subcommittee, I am pleased and delighted to be here today and to
present The Nature Conservancy's support for H.R. 182. As you may know, The Nature
Conservancy is an international non-profit organization dedicated to preserving the plants and
animals and natural communities that represent the diversity of life on earth. We have over one
million members and have protected over 12 million acres in the United States and Canada. We
work very closely with local communities and in strong partnerships with both public and private
landowners. Our Tidelands Program, which I direct in Connecticut, seeks to protect key
ecological areas within a 560-square-mile region of the lower Connecticut River, this region,
again known as the Tidelands, has received considerable acclaim over the last 10 years, being
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named one of the 40 last great places in the western hemisphere and also being included under
the international Ramsar Convention, among other recognitions. The Eigthmile River is part
of this area, and it is a top priority for The Nature Conservancy.     It is
rare to find entire ecosystems intact throughout their range, especially on the East Coast. But the
Eightmile River watershed is one example, one last remaining example that we have, of such an
ecosystem; 85 percent forested, as is demonstrated by the map that you see on my left. Picture
that as a fall day, by the way, a lot of orange and yellow there, a lot of fall colors in the forest; 85
percent of this watershed is forested and it contains the largest unfragmented forest region in
coastal Connecticut. Nine thousand four hundred acres of this watershed are in permanent protection. That is about 25
percent.     The Eightmile River system is free-flowing, and the water
quality of its extensive wetlands and watercourses is excellent throughout. From native brook
trout to blueback herring, the river system is a haven for fish, both in terms of diversity and
abundance. It contains globally rare species and has the internationally recognized tidal marsh,
freshwater tidal marsh, at Hamburg Cove. There are some other smaller things we do not often
see, native submerged aquatic vegetation and freshwater mussels further testify to the fact that
this is a very healthy ecosystem.     It is also within the State's elite in
terms of the insects and mayflies and beetles and snails, the things that we do not see, but reflect
a really special system. There is also the scenic beauty and an abundance of recreational
opportunities here that make this highly regarded by the communities that live in this area, and as
a river on the nationwide rivers inventory, there is little doubt that the Eightmile River system
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contains outstandingly remarkable values. The greatest threat to these is incremental, unplanned
growth, and while growth is inevitable, the question is whether it will be managed to sustain the
nationally outstanding values here.     Six years ago, the Eightmile River
watershed project was formed by local citizens and officials, the University of Connecticut and
The Nature Conservancy to initiate a new model for balancing conservation and growth within a
watershed. Now, having expended great energy and having generated considerable information,
this is one of scores of maps that have been developed for this watershed. Also, having
witnessed tremendous community interest over these years, we now look to support a community
process of self-determination. A Wild and Scenic River study is the best vehicle for achieving
this goal, and that is because the process associated with designation and the study process
provides the incentive, the structure, the expertise and the resources needed for the communities
to come together and collectively identify the issues and goals they have for this resource and to
set forth the means for achieving those goals. The study that we seek today is being sought as
much to facilitate this community self-determination as it is to achieve the designation.
    Wild and Scenic River designation would also offer special important
protections that we in the local communities cannot otherwise avail ourselves of, nor can we
avail those protections at the State level, either, I might add. Widespread support exists for the
study, as letters and newspaper endorsements will testify. The communities are ready to do their
part. A small Federal contribution through this study can leverage a very large local effort, and
the value associated with sustaining a national treasure.     The study
would leverage the kind of volunteer, community-based initiative that has been hailed for
sustaining the fabric of our communities, and I might add it would not require Federal land
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acquisition, it would not involve Federal land management, it would not become a Federal park.
Time is critical. Not only is some of the resource being lost every day, but the community's
determination, confidence and readiness is tied to the momentum that has been created over the
last six years. The people of these communities are looking for your support.
    Thank you very much for this opportunity to testify in support of H.R. 
182, and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Frohling follows:]

Statement of Nathan M. Frohling, Tidelands Program Director, Connecticut Chapter, The Nature Conservancy

    Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee, I appreciate this opportunity to present
The Nature Conservancy's testimony in support of H.R. 182, legislation to authorize a Wild and
Scenic River Study for the Eightmile River in Connecticut.

    The Nature Conservancy is an international, non-profit organization dedicated to the
conservation of biological diversity. Our mission is to preserve the plants, animals and natural
communities that represent the diversity of life on Earth by protecting the lands and waters they
need to survive. The Conservancy has more than 1,000,000 individual members and 1,900
corporate associates. We currently have programs in all 50 states and in 27 foreign countries. To
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date we have protected more than 12 million acres in the 50 states and Canada, and have helped
local partner organizations preserve 60 million acres overseas. The Conservancy owns and
manages 1,342 preserves throughout the United States, the largest private system of nature
sanctuaries in the world. Sound science and strong partnerships with public and private
landowners to achieve tangible and lasting results characterize our conservation programs.

    As Director of the Tidelands Program, I lead The Nature Conservancy's efforts to conserve
the Eightmile River system. The Tidelands Region, which includes the Eightmile River and its
39,900-acre watershed, is a top priority for The Nature Conservancy in Connecticut. The
Tidelands contains extensive yet globally rare tidal marsh communities, globally rare and
endangered species, and a regional landscape that is largely intact. The Nature Conservancy
recognized this area in 1993 as one of the ''40 Last Great Places in the Western Hemisphere.'' The
Tidelands were designated in 1994 as containing Wetlands of International Importance under the
Ramsar Convention and this area is recognized as one of the most outstanding areas within the
boundaries of the Silvio O. Conte National Wildlife Refuge.

    I also serve as Co-Chair of the Eighmile River Watershed Committee, a group of local
officials and citizens charged with implementing the Eightmile River Watershed Project. The
goal of this project is to enable the three communities, Lyme, East Haddam and Salem, to
balance conservation and growth in order to maintain the integrity of the watershed. Passage of
legislation to authorize a Wild and Scenic River Study on the Eightmile River will significantly
enhance community-based efforts to conserve the unique resources of this globally significant
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region.

The Eightmile River

    The Eightmile name is based on the distance between the location of its mouth at the Connecticut River and the mouth of Connecticut River at Long Island Sound.
Extensive wetlands and watercourses combine to form the 10-mile-long East Branch, the 10 mile
long West Branch, and the 5-mile main stem of the river. There are other major tributaries such
as Beaver Brook, Harris Brook, and Fall Brook. The water quality throughout the river system is
excellent. There are no known pollution sources. An old, minor source of potential pollution is
the only reason the State has not classified the river at the highest drinking water classification.
There has been no evidence of pollution.

    The Eightmile River system is one of the most significant aquatic resources within the
Lower Connecticut River watershed and contains a number of outstanding and remarkable
ecological, historical, cultural and recreational resource values. Within Southern New England,
and particularly coastal Connecticut, it is uncommon to find entire ecosystems intact throughout
their range, particularly at the scale of the 39,900-acre Eightmile River Watershed. From species
to natural communities to its extensive wetland and watercourse system to its unfragmented
forest, the Eightmile is an outstanding national treasure.

    Eighty-five percent of the Eightmile River Watershed is forested. Most notably this forest
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habitat is largely intact; it is the largest unfragmented forest region in coastal Connecticut. In
total, about 65 percent or 26,000 acres of the watershed is completely unfragmented and the
remaining 35 percent are only sparsely developed. The watershed benefits from a high level of
protection. The State of Connecticut, The Nature Conservancy, each of the towns, the local land
trusts and others have conserved 9,375 acres or 23 percent of the watershed. The intact forest of
the Eightmile River Watershed provides increasingly rare interior nesting bird habitat.

    The Eightmile River is virtually free flowing throughout its extent. The only dams of any
significance have both had fish ladders installed. The River contains the various forms of aquatic
habitat types such as pools and riffles, rocky whitewater sections, sandy and gravelly bottoms,
waterfalls, and wide, slow sections. The riparian zones are largely intact throughout the river
system. The river is considered by the Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection to
be an exemplary occurrence of one of Connecticut's most imperiled natural communities—free
flowing rivers and streams.

    The River system is a haven for fish, both resident and migratory. There is a great diversity
and abundance of fish species that use the river throughout their various life stages. It is one of
Connecticut's best trout streams. The River contains native brook trout, brown trout and rainbow
trout, plus minnows, suckers and small-mouthed bass. Anadromous species include alewife
herring, blueback herring, sea lamprey, striped bass, and sea-run brown trout. Efforts are
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underway to restore Atlantic salmon and American shad.

    Two globally rare plant species are known to exist in the Eightmile River system, Parker's
pipewort and Eaton's beggar tick. The American bald eagle is also frequently found here. There
are many more state rare species and habitats suitable for supporting such species. Hamburg
Cove at the mouth of the river is an internationally recognized freshwater tidal marsh community.

    Along with these species and communities there are other key indicators of a healthy
aquatic system. Extensive, native beds of submerged aquatic vegetation exist. Freshwater
mussels are present and exotic mussels are not. One in ten American mussel species has gone
extinct over the last century, and almost three-fourths of the remaining species are globally rare.
The Eightmile River contains both the brook floater and eastern pearlshell mussel; both are
protected by the Connecticut Endangered Species Act. The Eightmile River is in the State's elite
for other small aquatic organisms such as mayflies, damselflies, dragonflies, beetles, snails, etc.
Among several categories of insect life, the Eightmile exceeds all other sites according to state
aquatic biologist Guy Hoffman.

    The Eightmile River and the watershed are highly prized by the three towns through which
it flows—Lyme, East Haddam and Salem. The watershed is approximately one-third to one-half of
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the land area in each of these towns. It is a rural landscape with great scenic beauty and offers an
abundance of recreational opportunities. It is one of the best rivers in Connecticut for fishing and
it supports boating from canoeing and kayaking to power and sail in the river's downstream
sections. Hiking, sightseeing, hunting, and nature observation are among popular activities
within the watershed at a number of State Forest areas, Devil's Hopyard State Park, and three
large preserves owned by The Nature Conservancy that are all open to the public.

    Much of the watershed's existing development is historic and well integrated into the
landscape. The river and watershed's high quality defines the character of these three towns. It is
at the heart of the quality of life enjoyed by area residents. Economic interests also recognize this
because economic vitality here, primarily tourism, is largely based on that quality.

    The greatest threat to the special attributes of the Eightmile River and its watershed is
incremental, unplanned growth. It results in landscape and habitat fragmentation, the loss of
water quality, the loss of important species and natural communities, the intrusion of undesirable
nuisance species, and obscures other qualities of this region. Change and growth is inevitable; for
example, East Haddam is one of the fastest growing towns in the state. This issue is whether
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growth will be managed to protect and sustain the unique resource at the heart of this region.
There are other potential threats such as the diversion of groundwater for water supply in distant
towns or golf course irrigation that could leave the hydrology of the system seriously altered,
especially during normally low-flow periods.

The Eightmile River Watershed Project and the Wild and Scenic River Study

    About six years
ago, the Eightmile River Watershed Committee was formed to pursue the Eightmile River
Watershed Project. The group was comprised of local officials and citizens, with the University
of Connecticut Cooperative Extension System (UConn) and The Nature Conservancy providing
staff support and resource expertise. The EPA Region One and Silvio O. Conte National Wildlife
Refuge provided funding. The project goal: balance conservation and growth in the watershed in
ways that ensure the long-term social, economic, and environmental health of its communities.

    The focus of the project thus far has been the development of educational resources to
support good land use planning and thoughtful stewardship by local landowners. One of the first
achievements was the signing by town leaders in December 1997 of the Conservation Compact.
This was an agreement between the three towns that committed each town to work together to
protect shared natural and cultural heritage.

    Since that time, the thrust of activity has been in the use of computer-based geographic
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information system (GIS) technology to generate state-of-the-art maps and resource information
about the watershed. Collectively these materials helped make it vividly clear just how unique
and precious the Eightmile River Watershed is to those who live here. The results were shown to
various audiences in the community through slide shows and presentations. They generated
considerable interest and support for further action.

    The Nature Conservancy has worked closely with the Eightmile River Watershed
Committee, each of the three towns, community groups and individuals. During this past year,
we have collectively looked at how best to take the information gathered and community interest
generated to accomplish tangible on-the-ground results for protecting the river and watershed.
Together we have recognized that going back to the communities to directly involve them in
decisionmaking about the future of the river and watershed was the best course of action and that
a Wild and Scenic River Study is the best vehicle for doing so. There are several reasons a Wild
and Scenic River Study is the best way to protect the Eightmile River.

    —The Eightmile River has the necessary outstandingly remarkable values to be eligible for
designation.

    —A Wild and Scenic River Study, and the process associated with it, provides the structure,
expertise, funding and facilitation needed for the communities as a whole to come together and
collectively identify the issues and goals they have for the resource, and to set forth the means for
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meeting those goals. This is the heart of the matter; the conservation needed is most likely to
come through community-based self-determination. Despite strong interest, it is not likely that
such a community process will happen without the incentive of the Wild and Scenic River
designation process. As important as designation itself may become, the pursuit of a Wild and
Scenic River study now is being sought as much for the opportunity it provides to support
community-based action and self-determination as it is to achieve the designation itself.

    —A Wild and Scenic River designation, if achieved, would offer important protections not
otherwise available locally or through the State of Connecticut. Federally funded or permitted
water resource related projects that would have a direct and adverse impact on the river would
not be allowed under designation. There are several threats to the Eightmile where this may be
important including, for example, adverse water diversions.

    —The Study would provide a greater level of scientific information than we have currently,
which might be especially useful for future decisionmaking.

    —A Wild and Scenic River study represents the potential to bring in needed funds to support
the community-based process that has been identified.

    —The Wild and Scenic River designation process would be built on local control. The ability
to maintain local control over land use decisions is key.
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    —The process would further facilitate coordination among the three towns.

    There has been wide'spread support at the community level for a Wild and Scenic River
Study and for potential Wild and Scenic River designation. A concern for the future for the
Eightmile River, a love of the Eightmile River Watershed area, and community pride have
combined with a recognition that the Wild and Scenic River process offers an excellent tool to
address these collective interests. Over 40 letters from all levels of local government, community
groups and individuals, including riverfronting property owners, have been submitted requesting
the Study. Leading newspapers have carried editorials endorsing the Wild and Scenic River
effort. These are summarized in the attached exhibits.

    Thank you very much for the opportunity to testify in support of H.R. 182. I urge the
committee's favorable consideration of this important legislation. I would be happy to answer
any questions from Members of the Committee.

LETTERS REQUESTING A WILD AND SCENIC RIVER STUDY OF THE EIGHTMILE RIVER:

SUBMITTED TO CONGRESSMAN ROB SIMMONS

Town Leaders:
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    1. Lyme Selectmen; Ralph Eno, First Selectman

    2. East Haddam Selectmen; Sue Merrow,
First Selectman

    3. Salem Selectmen; Jim Fogarty, First Selectman

     

Town Commissions:

     1. Lyme Conservation and Inland Wetlands Commission; Don Gerber,         Chairman

     2. Lyme Planning and Zoning Commission; David Tiffany, Chairman,

     3. Lyme Open Space Committee; James Thatch, Chairman

     4. East Haddam Planning and Zoning Commission; Harvey Thomas, Chairman

     5. East Haddam Economic Development Commission; Edward Thereault,
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        Chairman

     6. East Haddam Inland Wetlands and Watercourses Commission; Randolph Dill,
        Chairman

     7. East Haddam Conservation Commission; W. Nic Damuck, Chairman

     8. East Haddam Open Space Commission; Jon Modica, Chairman

     9. East Haddam Historical District Commission; Will Brady, Chairman

    10. Salem Planning and Zoning Commission; David Bingham, Secretary

    11. Salem Inland Wetlands and Conservation Commission; George Ziegra,
        Chairman

     

Community-based Committees:

    1. Eightmile River Watershed Committee; Jim Ventres, Nathan Frohling,
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       David Bingham, Anthony Irving, Co-Chairmen

    2. East Haddam Community Planning Group; Deb Matthiason, Project Assistant

     

Community Civic Organizations:

    1. Lyme Garden Club; Janet Cody, Secretary

    2. Lyme Public Hall Assoc., Inc.; Parker Lord, President

    3. Lyme Cemetery Commission; Linda Bireley, Secretary

    4. East Haddam Civic Association; Timothy Johnson, Representative

    5. Bashan Lake Association, East Haddam; Bruce Fletcher, President

    6. Salem Historical Society; Dr. Milton Clark, Representative

     

Riverfronting Property Owners:

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    1. Marilyn Wilkins, Lyme

    2. Betsy Woodward, Lyme

    3. Vivien Blackford, East Haddam

    4. John and Barbara Kashanski, East Haddam

    5. Jack Bodman, Salem

    6. Andrew Zemko, Salem

    7. Dr. Richard Goodwin, Salem

     

Town Residents:

    1. Janice and Richard Anderson, Lyme

    2. Mary Catherwood, Lyme

    3. Leslie Shaffer, Lyme

    4. Mary Platt, Lyme
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    5. Betty Cleghone, Lyme Garden Club member

    6. Sebyl Martin, East Haddam

     

Conservation Organizations:

    1. Lyme Land Conservation Trust; Anthony Irving, President

    2. East Haddam Land Trust; Maureen VanDerStad, President

    3. Salem Land Trust; David Wordell, President

    4. The Nature Conservancy, CT Chapter; Nathan Frohling,
       Tidelands Program Director

    5. Connecticut River Watershed Council; Thomas Maloney, River Steward

    6. Potapaug Audubon Society; Dr. Milton Clark, Conservation Chairman

     
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Leading Newspaper Editorial Endorsements:

    1. The Hartford Courant; November 2000

    2. The Day; December 17, 2000

     
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    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you for that testimony.     Ms. Merrow?

STATEMENT OF SUSAN MERROW, FIRST SELECTMAN, EAST HADDAM, CONNECTICUT

    Ms. MERROW. Good
afternoon. Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee, thank you for this opportunity to speak to
you today. My name is Susan Merrow. I am currently serving my fifth term as First Selectman of the
town of East Haddam, and on behalf of the people of my hometown, I come here before you
today to urge your favorable consideration of H.R. 182, to study the Eightmile River for possible
inclusion in the Wild and Scenic River program. We believe this waterway is of exemplary
significance to my town, to our region and to our State. To tell you a little bit about East
Haddam, we are a town of 7,620 people spread out over 57 square miles that are bordered by the
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beautiful Connecticut River. We have many things to be proud of in East Haddam.
    We are home to the Goodspeed Opera House, a restored Victorian
theater that sent such well-known musicals to Broadway as ''Annie'' and ''The Man of La Mancha''.
We are proud to be the home of U.S. Senator Christopher Dodd. We have beautiful old homes.
We have a proud history of 19th-century water-powered mills. We have two handsome State
parks. We have beautiful unfragmented forest, and we are very proud to be bordered once again
by the Connecticut River and the tidelands that Nathan has mentioned.
    Like any modern community, we balance these cultural and
environmental resources against all the demands of a modern community, the need for a healthy
economy, for jobs, for decent housing, for finding the money to build schools, yet over and over
again, when asked, the citizens of my town speak out again and again, asking us to protect the
natural resources of our town. They do this not just for reasons of nostalgia, but because we see
it in our long-term economic best interest. We believe it just makes practical good sense. We
believe that our tourism-dependent economy and we count as crucial to the quality of life that
makes East Haddam a good place to live require that we do no less.
    We have embarked on a several-year planning process that has at its
heart the notion that our environment and our economy are inextricably linked. We are actively
planning as a community for environmentally compatible economic development which
acknowledges and enhances the unique natural and cultural attributes of our town. We have
invited our citizenry together to establish a list of community values of things we hold dear as a
town, and prominent on that list is protecting the natural environment.
    All of this is by way of backdrop for my request of you that you give
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favorable consideration to our wish that you support funding for the study of what we believe is
East Haddam's most remarkable natural resource, the Eightmile River. The main stem of the
Eightmile River rises in my town and flows through hemlock gorges over a spectacular waterfall,
alongside forest, fields and farms as it finds its way to the Connecticut River. The Eightmile
River encompasses one-third of the land area of my town, and through a combination of great
good luck and the fortunate foresight of our forefathers, the Eightmile River flows unrestricted
and pure through an almost completely untrammeled landscape, which is a remarkable greenway.
Significant stretches of the watershed are permanently protected by the State and by land trusts,
but most of the land is in the hands of private landowners. The people of East Haddam have
teamed up with the people from the other two towns in the watershed to educate themselves and
others about this resource. Our theory is that if people know the resource, they will love it, and if
they love it, they will make good decisions about it.     We have worked
with The Nature Conservancy and the University of Connecticut to amass a very large database of
information about this river, about the forest and the wildlife habitat and the water quality. I
have joined the First Selectmen of the other two towns in the watershed to create an agreement to
work together to protect this resource. We have signed a compact. You will find a picture in this
little booklet of the three of us signing the compact, which speaks of our commitment to balance
conservation and growth by ensuring the long-term social, economic and environmental
health—and the vitality of our communities in the watershed.     I carry
with me today the wishes and hopes of my colleagues in the other two towns in this watershed.
Support for studying the Eightmile River for possible inclusion in the Wild and Scenic River
program is broad and deep in all three watershed towns, from boards and commissions, to civic
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groups to the land trusts, we bring with us, as you know, today 43 letters of support from the
people of our region.     We feel very strongly that this is a very unusual
and valuable resource, worthy to be listed alongside the great rivers of our country. My
community and the others in the Eightmile watershed stand ready to do the work required to
support a study and to make use of the information that will be developed. Ours has been a
completely grassroots effort. We have brought our project a long way and we offer you now an
opportunity to leverage that effort. We look to this program to help us take the next step, to help
us retain control of our project locally, to help build the partnerships and to gain deserved
recognition for this very special bit of unspoiled nature that graces my town and that we deeply
hope will do so for generations to come. Thank you very much for this chance to speak to you
today.

    [The prepared statement of Ms. Merrow follows:]

Statement of Susan D. Merrow, First Selectman of the Town of East Haddam, Connecticut, on H.R. 182

    My name is Susan Merrow. I am currently serving my fifth term as First Selectman of the
Town of East Haddam, Connecticut, about 30 miles southeast of Hartford. For those unfamiliar
with old-fashioned New England small town government, the First Selectman is the Chief
Elected Official, and in many towns like mine, also the Chief Executive Officer. I know that
Connecticut is commonly regarded as a bedroom community for New York City. It comes as a
surprise to many I meet from other parts of the country that eastern Connecticut is a remarkable
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swath of green and surprisingly open, rural land between Boston and Washington. On behalf of
the people of my town, I come before you today to urge your favorable consideration for H.R. 
182, a bill which would amend the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act to include a study of the
Eightmile River, a waterway which we believe to of exemplary significance to my town, our
region, and our state.

    East Haddam itself is a town of 7,620 people and 57 square miles, bordered by the
magnificent Connecticut River. We have many things of which to be proud in East Haddam. We
are home to the Goodspeed Opera House, a restored Victorian Theater that sent such well known
musicals to Broadway as ''Annie'' and ''Man of La Mancha.'' We are proud to be the home of U.S. Senator Christopher Dodd. We have venerable old homes and farms, and a proud history of
nineteenth century water-powered mills. We have two handsome state parks. One of these, which is called Gillette's Castle, draws thousands of visitors from all over the world to view the unusual
stone mansion of actor William Gillette, made famous by his portrayal of Sherlock Holmes, and
to gaze down upon the Tidelands of the Connecticut River as they stretch away to the south,
toward Long Island Sound. These Tidelands have been identified under the Ramsar Treaty as
''wetlands of international significance.'' We have three handsome lakes, large stretches of
unfragmented forests, and fishable, swimmable streams. Like any community, we balance these
cultural and environmental resources against all the demands of a modern community the need
for a healthy economy, for jobs, for decent housing, for funding to build schools. Yet, over and
over again, when asked to help town planners strike a balance between stewardship and
development of our natural resources, the people of my town speak out clearly for preserving and
protecting the natural environment. We do this not just for reasons of nostalgia, but because we
see it in our long-term economic best interest. We believe that our tourism dependent economy
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and what we count as crucial to the quality of life that make East Haddam a good place to live
require that we do no less. We have embarked on a several-year planning process that has at its
heart the notion that our environment and our economy are inextricably linked. We are actively
planning as a community for environmentally compatible economic development, development
which acknowledges and enhances the unique natural and cultural attributes of our town. Our
planning process began with involving our whole citizenry in establishing a list of community
values, things we hold dear, as a town such as our history, our education system, our tradition of
volunteerism, and our love of the arts and protecting the natural environment is prominent among
them. We have agreed as a community to take these values into account as we weigh plans for
future direction and development. All of this is by way of backdrop for my request of you that
you give favorable consideration to our wish that you support funding for the study of East
Haddam's most remarkable natural resource, the Eightmile River, for possible inclusion in the
Wild and Scenic River system. The main stem of the Eightmile River rises in East Haddam and
flows through hemlock gorges, over a spectacular waterfall, alongside forests, fields, and farms
as it finds its way to the Connecticut River. The Eightmile River watershed encompasses about a
third of the land area of East Haddam. Through a combination of serendipity and the fortunate
foresight of our town forefathers, the Eightmile River flows unrestricted and pure through an
almost completely untrammeled landscape, a remarkable greenway. While significant stretches
of the watershed are permanently protected from development by the State and by land trusts,
most of the watershed is in the hands of private landowners. The people of East Haddam have
teamed up with people form the other two towns in the watershed to educate themselves and
others about this resource. Our theory is that, if people know the resource they will respect it, and
if they respect it they will make good decisions about it. Toward this end, working with our state
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university and The Nature Conservancy, we have amassed a large data base of information about
this river the forest resources of the watershed, the development patterns, its water quality and
more. We have learned that our river is essentially free-flowing, has high water quality, excellent
riparian habitat, extensive fresh water wetlands and submerged aquatic vegetation, healthy
populations of fresh water mussels and native and stocked trout, and it supports a high diversity
of fish species and healthy runs of migratory fish. On behalf of my townspeople, I have joined
the First Selectmen of the other two towns in the watershed in creating an agreement to work
together to protect this resource. I and my fellow First Selectmen from Lyme and Salem signed a
compact which states in part, '' the Towns of East Haddam, Lyme and Salem enter into this
voluntary Conservation compact that acknowledges our commitment to balance conservation and
growth by:

    1. Protecting and enhancing the water resources of the watershed, including both the quality
of the water and the integrity of normal stream and groundwater flows;

    2. Connecting and
maintaining habitats and rural landscape throughout the watershed; and

    3. Ensuring the
long-term social, economic, environmental health and vitality of the communities in the
watershed.

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their constituents. Those of you who have labored long in the fields of government will recognize
how difficult it can be to make agreements that span political boundaries. ''Home Rule'' is
practically carved into the seal of each of Connecticut's 169 municipalities. Any agreement that
suggests putting the interests of a region first is commonly regarded with suspicion. In the case
of this compact to protect the Eightmile River, our citizens readily grasped the notion that since
rivers do not conform to political boundaries, neither can we think only of our short term
self-interest if we care about this river. Support for studying the Eightmile River for possible
inclusion in the Wild and Scenic River program is broad and deep in all three watershed towns.
From Boards of Selectmen, to Planning and Zoning Commissions, to Wetlands Commissions, to
Land Trusts even to Economic Development Commissions and even the Historic District
Commission in one town, our towns speak with one voice about how strongly we feel that this is
a very unusual and valuable resource, worthy to be listed alongside the great rivers of our
country. My community and the others in the Eightmile watershed stand ready to do the work
required to support a study and to make use of the information that will be developed. Please
consider these thoughts and wishes as you weigh the merits of H.R. 182. Please help us to gain
deserved recognition for this very special bit of unspoiled nature that graces my town and that we
deeply hope will do so for generations to come.

   

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    Mr. HEFLEY. Do you
have any idea how the private landowners along the river feel? The people in town want it,
but how about the private landowners along the river?     Ms.
MERROW. Well, we have made a significant
effort to reach out to private landowners. We invited all the private landowners with personal
invitations to public information sessions. Among the 43 letters of support today are letters from
a number of those private landowners, and some of the support has come from surprising
quarters, from some of those old Yankees that we felt would be highly suspicious of this
activity, but they have embraced it and I believe that we can say that we have very strong support
from the private landowners.     Mr.
HEFLEY. Mrs. Christensen?
    Mrs. CHRISTENSEN.
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testimony today that both of the areas have put in a lot of time and effort over a long period of
time, to bring us to the point of H.R. 146 and H.R. 182. They appear to have broad
community support and they certainly have a rich and varied history to justify the request. I
agree with you that even if there is a moratorium for however long, that should not preclude us
from having studies done.     I look forward to working with you. I think
maybe between us we may be able to work with the Administration to support these requests.
    Mr. HEFLEY. Thank
you.     Mr. Simmons?
    Mr. SIMMONS.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think I have taken enough of the Committee's time with my
questions and comments. I think you know where I am coming from, and I appreciate the
courtesy extended to me and to my friends from eastern Connecticut, and I appreciate the
courtesy of the Committee.     Mr.
HEFLEY. Thank you very much.
    Let me ask, Mr. Frohling, in your testimony, you indicated that among
its other attributes, a segment of the Eightmile River is also an outstanding recreational resource.
Could you describe in greater detail the recreational activities that take place on the river, and
would Wild and Scenic River designation have an adverse impact on the ability of the public to
continue to engage in these recreational activities? Would the designation have any positive
impact on the public future recreational use of this river?     Mr.
FROHLING. It certainly would not have any
negative impact, and I think it would only have a positive impact, both again in terms of the
support for the local efforts, to continue to shape the future of this watershed, to hold on to these
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recreational resources that we currently have today, and to help expand public access to some of
the sites. I would say that if you can imagine a recreational opportunity, it is there on the
Eightmile. The ones that stand out—fishing is probably the most famous on the Eightmile. It is
one of the top trout fishing rivers in the State of Connecticut, including particularly the native
trout that makes it so desirable to fishermen.     But you will also find the
full range of boating activities, from canoeing and kayaking both, to power and sailboating
activities in the lower portion of the river, which is wider and slower, but you also have lots of
hiking and biking and sightseeing and birdwatching and all the other kinds of activities. We
even have snowshoeing and cross-country skiing when the snow falls down. There is just about
any activity you can imagine, in the Eightmile.     Mr.
HEFLEY. And it would continue to be, if this
designation was made?     Mr.
FROHLING. Absolutely, and I think it would
further encourage organizations like The Nature Conservancy when we are involved and working
with willing landowners to protect land, to make those lands available for public access, which
we are beginning to do, and there are already a number of locations in the Eightmile that are
available to the public. There are two large State forests. There is a State park. The Nature
Conservancy also has three preserves in the Eightmile that are open to the public, as well, and it
is through these sites and others, including land trust properties and so forth, where the public
can gain access to the river for fishing and hiking and so forth.     Mr.
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HEFLEY. Well, all four of you must be good
witnesses, because you have convinced me that I need to go both to the Eightmile River and to
Paterson, New Jersey, to see for myself, to see if you are telling me the truth. I could do that on
the Eightmile River better with a fly rod in my hand, I think. That would help me understand
better what the resources are there.     Do you have any questions or
comments, Mr. Simpson?     Mr.
SIMPSON. Yes, a couple, Mr. Chairman.
    First of all, is most of the land on the Eightmile River currently
privately owned?     Mr.
FROHLING. Yes.     Mr.
SIMPSON. Would there be any changes in the
current use of that land if this designation is made?     Mr.
FROHLING. No.     Mr.
SIMPSON. I appreciate that. The reason I asked
that is just to show you there are differences between the east and the west, to some degree.
Whenever you start talking about Wild and Scenic Rivers in Idaho, you had better run for cover,
because we do not want most of those designations because of the restrictions they put on. But I
understand. I have been there, and it is a beautiful area and deserving of preservation, and
making sure it does not get degraded in the future.     About the Great
Falls Historic District, I am wondering, as I read this testimony from Joseph Doddridge, in 1992,
$4.147 million in Urban History Initiative funds to be administered by the National Park Service
were given to the area with an agreement with the city to protect historic resources while
fostering compatible economic development. Then, in 1996, the Great Falls Historic District
was authorized for $3.3 million in matching grants and assistance to develop and implement a
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preservation and interpretive plan for the district and permit development of a market analysis
with recommendations of the economic development potential of the district. Has all that been
done?     Ms. DOPIRAK.
Actually, the latter part, we have not received that money. That has only been authorized. It has
not been appropriated. But we are still continuing to work with the National Park Service on the
Urban History Initiative.

    Mr.
SIMPSON. Is the reason the $3.3 million in the
latter part has not been received is that it has not been appropriated because it required matching
funds and those have not been raised yet?     Ms.
DOPIRAK. No, I do not think so. I believe it just
has not been appropriated.     Mr.
SIMPSON. Why do we take it from a National
Historic Landmark to a part of the Park Service? I mean, does not the National Historic Landmark
designation protect the area?     Ms.
DOPIRAK. No, it does not. It only gives it a
form of protection if Federal funds or State funds were to be used in a way that would be
detrimental to a protected resource. It does not provide the kind of interpretation, preservation
and educational activities that we believe being a unit of the National Park Service would bring
to us.     Mr. SIMPSON. I
guess the reason I ask that is—are we trying to just put something into the National Park Service
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to make more funding available for it, so that we can do some things? I mean, is that basically
the reason we are doing it?     Ms.
DOPIRAK. I do not think I quite understand your
question.     Mr.
SIMPSON. Are we looking at making it a part of
the National Park System because that would effectively make more funds available to do some
preservation that you want to do? Is that basically the reason?     Ms.
DOPIRAK. Yes, I think the study would lead us
to that conclusion, and we believe it is only with the National Park Service, who have superior
technical expertise and resources available, to assist us in making the complete story of the
historic district known to everyone and assisting us in the interpretation of our resources.
    Mr. SIMPSON. I guess
I should express some concern, and it is not about this or anything else. In fact, I may support
this fully. I do not know yet. But we do have a backlog, as has been mentioned, in maintenance
of our National Park System, and there are areas all over this country that you could designate as
significant historically and so forth. You can go to Colorado and I am sure there are mining
areas that were significant. In Idaho, I know there are areas where events occurred that are
significant in our history and so forth. If we are going to start adding all of these to the park
system, are we going to soon run out of funds? I mean, when we have already got a $4 billion
backlog?     Ms.
DOPIRAK. We think the Great Falls Historic
District has a different story to tell. I have been in the San Juan Mountains of Colorado and I do
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believe that you have interesting stories to tell, and I have seen these old mining towns which are
literally baking in the sun and they are not being protected, and they are deserving of protection,
but we believe that in Paterson, we tell the story from the beginning of this country, and that is
story of national merit. It involves very famous people and people who were not famous, and it
is such a unique story that has such far-reaching significance to our Nation that we think it
should be told. If I might just quote, there was a very nice letter submitted to the Committee, and
I would like to read one sentence. It was submitted by Ed Smyk, who is the Passaic County
historian. He says ''the Great Falls Historic District transcends parochial and State concerns, and I
do not exaggerate by saying that the continued preservation, enhancement and interpretation of
the district is essential to an understanding of America's industrial history,'' and I think that says it
all.

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    Mr. SIMPSON. Well,
thank you, and thank all of you for your testimony, and I look forward to working on this
legislation. My only question is was it Colt, the gun that won the west, or was it Winchester?
    Ms. DOPIRAK. I think
it was Colt.     Mr.
SIMPSON. See, I thought it was the repeating
rifle at Winchester. Thank you.     Mr.
HEFLEY. Well, we certainly cannot act on that
legislation till we get an answer to that. Thank all of you. It was excellent testimony and we
appreciate you taking time to do it. This Committee stands adjourned.

    [Whereupon, at 3:56 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.]